E98 Old Put tobacco

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Posted By: Robert A

It's interesting to think about this set of "candy" cards with an anonymous maker. Should they even be designated as candy cards? They could very well be tobacco cards if there is anything to the theory that Old Put is the issuer. (By the way, I know this very point has been discussed before here. I'm more interested in theories on how the stamp got to the back of the card rather than whether or not the cards are candy or tobacco.)

Caramel-cards.com mentions that possibly "Dads come in and buy cigars - owner gives them a card (with the store name) for their son."

Although I don't much about how e98s were packaged, it could be that the few people that opened the candies/cigars at the store got a stamp from the sales person at the store.

Or, it could be that the fewer examples that the salesperson has access to via opening the cigars themselves to smoke them stamped the cards to give to kids or others.

Old Put could be one cigar brand carried at the store, or the name of the store.

All these mini-theories seem kind of absurd though when you think of how most of the oldputs are stamped on red e98s. I know that one has recently surfaced with a blue front.

Anyways, just thinking out loud. Forgive me if I'm babbling about old news.
robert a

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Posted By: quan

the old put have been classifed as a completely different set from the e98s starting in the '04 SCD i think, I still just call them e98 Old Put for convenience and recognition factor.

also am i mistaken or i believe i've seen 2 with blue backs? the clarke and one other???

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Posted By: leon

You've probably seen 1 with a blue background take care

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Posted By: tbob

please let me know. It is probably mine and stolen. The card appears vgex+ at first glance but has a tiny paper "chip" in the right upper corner.
The one thing that bothers me greatly about this being a separate issue (as opposed to the E94 back stamps) is that it will probably escalate in value and some vermin will devise a stamp to forge the "Old Put" printing on the back, which is rather crude and probably easily copied. There are enough lower conditions around to make such a forgery extremely profitable.

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Posted By: Robert A

Isn't it possible that someone stamped these cards with the old put stamp long after they originally issued for advertising purposes?

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Posted By: jay behrens

Robert, you bring up a point that makes me really leery of paying a huge premium for a card with a stamp on the back. With all the scrapbooking and stamp craze that is going on, I'd think it wouldn't be difficult to reproduce one of these stamps. I've been tempted to go to one of these shops and see if I can get a custom made stamp just to see how easy it is to fake these stamps. As far as I'm concerned, when it comes to old Puts, etc, the empeoror has no clothes. But then I'm in the minority on this one.

Jay

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Posted By: Robert A

1762: General Israel Putnam introduces cigar-smoking to the US. After a British campaign in Cuba, "Old Put" returns with three donkey-loads of Havana cigars; introduces the customers of his Connecticut brewery and tavern to cigar smoking (BD) www.historian.org

anybody know anything about old put tobacco/cigars?

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Posted By: BCD

Has a Cobb Old Putz E-98-"2" as it should be known. I have a McGraw.