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05-24-2015, 07:53 AM
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analogy
Is this an example of suicide by bulletin board ?
Last edited by ALR-bishop; 05-24-2015 at 07:55 AM. 
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05-24-2015, 08:19 AM
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05-24-2015, 10:50 AM
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05-24-2015, 11:17 AM
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Wow. So someone takes the time to put a businessman on blast, and trash him in public....but doesn't take the time to:
1. Check math before mouthing off. 2. Delete the original post. And also shilled his own card? Hysterical. #comeuppance.
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05-24-2015, 12:22 PM
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Not to defend the OP, if in fact he did shill his own auction, but he has a point about the "invoice."
According to the 2nd spreadsheet, Probstein owed him $696.73 for the 11 items in the 2nd grouping. The relisted card sold for $51.50 more than it did the first time, resulting in a net to the OP of $45.32. This means Probstein owed the seller $696.73 + $45.32 = $742.05. Instead, Probstein shows a net final of $654.38 which means he did not add the $45.32 to the due amount, but instead subtracted $42.35 from the due amount. So essentially, the OP was short-changed $87.67. For those of you who say Probstein was just fine, please explain why it is fine to not pay the OP the $45.32 he is due for the relisted card and in addition, subtract $42.35 from what he is owed from the 11 cards sold in the 2nd grouping.
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05-24-2015, 12:25 PM
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In regards to the accusations of shilling, I have to confess ignorance. Here is the bid history of the winner of the first auction:
Bidding Details Bidder Information Bidder: t***l ( 406Feedback score is 100 to 499) Feedback: 100% Positive Item description: 2001 Team Topps Legends 1958 RC Retro Jim Brown Browns BGS Authentic w/ 10 AUTO Bids on this item: 2 30-Day Summary Total bids: 22 Items bid on: 16 Bid activity (%) with this seller: 0% Help Bid retractions: 0 Bid retractions (6 months): 0 30-Day Bid History Category No. of Bids Seller Help Last Bid Help Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Football 1 Seller 1 5d 23h Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Football 2 Seller 2 <1h Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Football 1 Seller 3 2d 8h Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Football 2 Seller 4 <1h Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Football 1 Seller 5 2d 6h Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Football 1 Seller 6 2d 14h Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Football 1 Seller 7 2d 21h Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Football 1 Seller 8 6d 3h Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Football 1 Seller 9 2d 11h Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Football 1 Seller 10 5d 12h Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Football 2 Seller 11 <1h Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Football 3 Seller 12 <1h Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Football 1 Seller 13 5d 22h Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Football 2 Seller 14 <1h Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Football 1 Seller 15 1d 23h Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Football 1 Seller 11 1d 1h How does one determine the OP shilled this auction and actually ended up winning it from the information above?
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05-24-2015, 12:42 PM
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this is the 2nd one: 30-Day Summary Total bids: 99 Items bid on: 88 Bid activity (%) with this seller: 70% personally i think this is great and they deserve each other. how does probstein not have knowledge of the shill process here? i, have personally stopped bidding on his auctions these days and have now noticed a lot of cards undergoing a new selling system: 1. card gets listed at outrageous buy it now price w/ best offer option. all @ $5K for $100-$300 cards. this under the guise of "saving time w/ listings". 2. the card then gets auctioned/shilled for just above what solid offers were made for said card in step 1 above. 3. card then pops up for buy it now at just below shilled price in step 2. this happened to me on several cards from a 73 set break and a couple dock ellis cards... my name is Bob Evans and have no problem telling this in face and in person to rick. Last edited by begsu1013; 05-24-2015 at 12:56 PM.
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