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Nice sheet of W513s - I actually had that same sheet until recently except mine was a little (okay, a lot) worse around the edges. Your thought of them simply using whatever they had available for a few runs makes sense. And what I forgot to mention is that I've actually seen them on a third type that is as thick as the thicker ones but on stock that is even lighter.
I just have a hard time believing they were faked with none of the really big names in that set. I thought they could be part of a poster but the back is like a grainier cardboard type that doesn't match other posters from that era.
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It's a small world pertaining to the sheet. I know yours is different but I have seen them circulate a fair amount. Just have to have our eyes open. I am not giving an opinion on yours as I don't know. And maybe it was another set but I know there is a set (maybe more) that has black captions and all known blue captions aren't good. I do think there are a ton of reprints/fakes of all of these in the market today. Good luck with it.
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Haha, I'd actually prefer that they were fakes as I'd at least have some concrete proof of what they were. That was my initial thought but then I saw more of them and wasn't sure. The printing style is what's throwing me off because, under a loupe, they look the same to me.
More digging to be done, I suppose.
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Like Leon mentioned, many strip card sets, including W513, appear in a variety of card stocks. Check out these three examples of Rube Benton. Not only do the cards have some color variation on the fronts, but they also have 3 different types of back paper. The one in the center is maybe slightly thicker, using the old sliding a finger over the back side test while lying flat, but definitely nowhere close to twice as thick.
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Thanks for those scans, Brian. The thicker card I have is similar in color (on the back) to your middle card. I've reviewed the thickness again, though, and it definitely appears to be about twice as thick. I think mine is different because the font is blue. Even in your variations, the font seems pretty dark.
I thought I had saved the picture of the first time I saw one of these but had not thought to look for it. It was actually a card that came in the mail to me and I scanned it but could not find the scan. It had a similar thickness as the Touchstone I've shown here. I sent it back to the seller because I did not think it was legit and he accepted returns. This card has an dark purple ink color in the font, which matches the brim of his hat. I had forgotten all about this card until this discussion prompted me to look for the scan. Based on the ink colors of yours and the ink color on my Touchstone and this Hendrick, I am inclined to believe these are not authentic. It seems like the authentic ones, while being on a different stock, do not have font color that varies such as these. I am definitely aware that the colors in the pictures can change but don't believe the font colors change.
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