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Old 08-24-2013, 11:03 AM
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It just goes to show that even low grade cards can be altered, improved, whatever word you like.
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Old 08-24-2013, 11:29 AM
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One of you old school Jersey guy's needs to "Go find Joey and do him up"...
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Old 08-24-2013, 11:33 AM
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One of you old school Jersey guy's needs to "Go find Joey and do him up"...
I think that "Joey" is the old school Jersey guy.... I think this thing runs deep - maybe even Tony Soprano has his hand in it...
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Old 08-24-2013, 11:45 AM
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I think that "Joey" is the old school Jersey guy.... I think this thing runs deep - maybe even Tony Soprano has his hand in it...
Nah, Joey doesn't have an Italian last name......
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Old 08-24-2013, 11:48 AM
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It just goes to show that even low grade cards can be altered, improved, whatever word you like.
I am not sure anyone ever said they can't be. I think the term I have used is something like "more prevalent"... in high grade cards. Even that is debateable but that would be my assumption due to many factors.
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This guy must have a passion for the hobby, according to his facebook page he is a grader at SGC!

https://www.facebook.com/joe.pankiewicz
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That's quite interesting?!

I sense dung heading for a fan?!

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IF it's true, would you be surprised?
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David, first of all, let me say I applaud your research efforts.

I don't even know where to begin with this. In my line of work, we'd call this market manipulation. It's deceptive, immoral, and illegal.

I know PSA provides their opinion on an incredible number of cards, but how can they not see some of the alterations being made?
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Is there any possibility that he established some friendships among other graders / people working for PSA and SGC?
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This guy must have a passion for the hobby, according to his facebook page he is a grader at SGC!

https://www.facebook.com/joe.pankiewicz
Hello all. In fairness to SGC, I emailed this thread to its owner, who read it and confirmed in email to me that Joe Pankiewicz is NOT an employee of SGC and has not been for many years.

I am posting this as I did not want to see SGC unfairly get hit with fallout from the wrath of these threads.

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For the record, my post was not a swipe at SGC in any form. But a grader from a TPG (even in the past) would have advantages in buying/selling cards over the average Joe (pun intended). Let me give you an example:





http://tinyurl.com/n26j9a3



http://tinyurl.com/n72kbpg

Y'all can draw your own conclusions. Anyone know how long ago he departed as a grader and the reason why?
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Old 08-24-2013, 05:28 PM
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" pank hasn't worked for SGC in over 10 years"

That's the quote
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For the record, my post was not a swipe at SGC in any form. But a grader from a TPG (even in the past) would have advantages in buying/selling cards over the average Joe (pun intended). Let me give you an example:





http://tinyurl.com/n26j9a3



http://tinyurl.com/n72kbpg

Y'all can draw your own conclusions. Anyone know how long ago he departed as a grader and the reason why?

Wow!

Pank won that PSA 4 Robinson and magically bumped it to an SGC 6.5? Wow!

Then he shilled it in Probstein's auction the second time around!

It's all right there in the bid history. His new eBay name is cgseller89 (he just changed it) with a feedback of 402.

I would like SGCs comment on this!!!
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SGC has no way of knowing the history of the 50 Roby. I understand your anger but it should be directed at Joe P and from what you have suggested, Probstein. By the way, I applaud your gathering the data and facts. Nice job.
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It's all right there in the bid history. His new eBay name is cgseller89 (he just changed it) with a feedback of 402.
He apparently also has over 9600 FB as "pank21", including over 400 purchases from Probstein between June 2011 and July 2012.
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