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Old 03-24-2007, 01:14 PM
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

For any of you guys contemplating a run to assemble an all-Polar Bear "subset".....here is a list of 70 cards
from the 350 and 460 Series that were not printed with this brand.

Subject to any revisions in this list....a complete PB set consists of 249 cards......which include Cobb (red),
Cobb (bat off), Demmitt (St L), Johnson (pitch), Lajoie (bat), Mathewson (dk cap), O'Hara (St L), Speaker,
CYoung (glove).

"I think this may be the start of a beautiful friendship".....my 5th set of T206's.....Claude Raines to Bogie in
Casablanca's final scene




NO-PRINTS

Abstein
Becker
Bender (trees)
Geo. Brown (Wash)
Burns
Butler
Byrne
Campbell
Cassidy
Camnitz (hds over)
Charles
Collins (A's)
Cree
Cross
Dahlen (Brooklyn)
Demmitt (NY)
Dineen
Donovan (throw)
Doolan (fldg)
Downs
Dubuc
Dunn (Balt)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Elberfeld (port-Wash)
Fiene (throw)
Fletcher
Hall
Hannifan
Hartsel
Hoffman (St Louis)
Huggins (port)
Huggins (hds/mouth)
Hunter
Killian (port)
Knabe
Knight (bat)
Lennox
Lundgren (KC)
Malarkey
Marquard (port)
Marshall
McAleese
McBride
McCormick
McElveen
McGinley
McIntyre (Det)
Mitchell (Cinc)
Mitchell (Tor)
Moran (Prov)
Mowery
Myers (bat)
Oberlin
O'Hara
Overall (hds/face)
Paskert
Phelan
Poland
Rhoades (hds/chest)
Rossman
Schmidt (port)
Starr
Stephens
Street (port)
Summers
Sweeney (Bost)
Thomas
Wilson
Zimmerman

I'm 95-99 % confident that this list is accurate, based on my research. However, if anyone can confirm
any of these cards with Polar Bear backs....please post them on this Thread, or email me at....

tedzan11@comcast.net

So, you T206 dudes, check-out your cards....and see if you can knock off some of these guys on my list ?

Thanks,

TED Z

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Old 03-24-2007, 01:18 PM
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Posted By: Joe D.

In the 80s... I was the "Polar Bear" kid when I went to card shows. I only collected T206s with Polar Bear Backs (why couldn't I have picked Drum instead?)

I believe I had 200+ before selling them all last year (to buy other cool stuff).

I hope I still have the scans on my home computer - and I will check them to see if I have any discrepencies with your list.

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Old 03-24-2007, 02:25 PM
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Posted By: Al C.risafulli

Fascinating, unbelievable research.

I can't imagine anyone could ever know for sure, but I would imagine that if there are only 249 cards available, then something must have been double-printed. I can't see why they would line up an odd number of cards on a sheet. They'd have added in one more to get an even 250, I would think. Is there any card with a PB back that seems to be more common than the others?

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Old 03-24-2007, 02:42 PM
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

You have a good point....however, that is how the math came out. Consider this, though,
the 1933 Goudey set consists of 239 cards.....another odd number. But, we know that they
were printed on 24-card sheets and that Babe Ruth (#144) was doubled-printed.

The big mystery we have with the T206's, is that we have no idea of how they were printed.

TED Z

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Old 03-24-2007, 03:36 PM
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Posted By: Judson Hamlin

Y'know Ted, whenever it is I can't find a T206 that I still need, I'll think of you-- when are you going to do the all Old Mill or EPdG set?? As far as the no print list, I have Adkins and Ganzel, but none of the others. I also have not seen any of the other cards on your list. Nice work, as usual.

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Old 03-24-2007, 03:53 PM
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Didn't you once, also, say you liked Sovereign's ?

Or am I thinking of another Joe ?

Anyhow, I sure do wish you still had all those 200+ Polar Bear's. See, if you can find your
info on them; and, please get back to me if you do.

And, if my research is correct, you had over 80 % of the set.

Confusius' admonition....never-ever sell vintage BB cards you purchased in the 1980's....for
you'll never acquire them again for those very reasonable prices you paid for them back then.

TED Z

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Old 03-24-2007, 03:57 PM
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Posted By: Judson Hamlin

does not apply to card actually printed in the 80's. 1988 Topps anyone?

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Posted By: Joe D.

I think the Sovereigns are awesome... and I voted for that back when you were considering which one would be your next subset. So, it might be me you are talking about.


I didn't collect Sovereigns though. I collected only Polar Bears... until I got a copy of The Monster and saw that Polar Bear didn't make some of the cards. So, I looked for a back that would fill in the blanks and went with Old Mill.

I was a dumb kid. I avoided Piedmonts because they were plentiful.

Never knew that Polar Bear were the dirtiest for a reason.

I probably would have had more than one full set right now (minus the biggies)... because my parents were very willing to buy me the cards at the shows (wonderful parents). But, I was stubborn - and they had to be Polar Bear.

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Posted By: Jim Rivera

TED,

i have Adkins with a PB back-email me and we can talk-

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Thanks guy, we can scratch Adkins from the list. The first one to go and I hope we get
some more inputs....I do not mind being corrected. I said my analysis is approx. 95 %
accurate.

I'll email you later tonite.

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