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Old 02-04-2019, 06:45 AM
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How many sportswriters in Boston this morning who were outraged about the Mejía signing last week are equally ripping Edelman this morning? Yeah, not many. Sure he’s the toast of the town today. Not a cheater like that other guy. Sure Edelman jerseys through the roof in the next week.

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Old 02-04-2019, 06:59 AM
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How many sportswriters in Boston this morning who were outraged about the Mejía signing last week are equally ripping Edelman this morning? Yeah, not many. Sure he’s the toast of the town today. Not a cheater like that other guy. Sure Edelman jerseys through the roof in the next week.
I may be out of the loop. Maybe you could elaborate on what Mejia and Edelman have to do with each other or why writers would have anything to say about the super bowl mvp that would compare to a banned baseball player. I guess I have no idea what you are talking about.
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:48 AM
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The Super Bowl MVP was suspended 4 games for PED's. Steroids is tolerated way more by football fans than baseball fans. Not fair but its the way it is.
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Old 02-04-2019, 10:44 AM
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The Super Bowl MVP was suspended 4 games for PED's. Steroids is tolerated way more by football fans than baseball fans. Not fair but its the way it is.
Ok. Thanks. I wasn’t aware. I get it now and I can comment.
Steroids in sports are a mixed issue - and the issue is that no one cares as long as the player can help your team. One of the most popular players in the league is Bartolo Colon. Everyone loves big sexy. No one cares that he has a ped suspension. They wonder how he can keep doing it at his age. Same with Nelson Cruz. No one cares as long as he hits 40 hr and forget quickly that he had some help. The Mets welcomed Robinson Cano. The issue comes down the road when the player can’t help the team any more or when their question about the HOF comes up. Then they are horrible cheaters and there is no place in the game for them. But while the player is productive the fans welcome them.
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I hate Edelman because he went to Can't State.

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I think a lot of it has to do with how the player approaches things when they get caught, as well as the sport.

Mostly players where they have some nearly valid excuse but accept their suspension are treated a bit better than the ones who try to make up insane stuff to get out of it.


Lance Armstrong - I didn't dope, and I'll sue you back to the stone age if you say I did. ---- Proof after his career is over, still denied it. Lifetime ban.


Alberto Contador - I tested positive for what? It must have been in the beef the fans sent. (entirely plausible, as it was clenbuterol, and at a level 400x lower than the WADA wants people tested for. ) Some appeals and delays, finally a year suspension and a few race results from 2010 and 2011 annulled in 2012. Back racing in late 2012 as part of the suspension was retroactive somehow.
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Old 02-04-2019, 01:49 PM
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Ok. Thanks. I wasn’t aware. I get it now and I can comment.
Steroids in sports are a mixed issue - and the issue is that no one cares as long as the player can help your team. One of the most popular players in the league is Bartolo Colon. Everyone loves big sexy. No one cares that he has a ped suspension. They wonder how he can keep doing it at his age. Same with Nelson Cruz. No one cares as long as he hits 40 hr and forget quickly that he had some help. The Mets welcomed Robinson Cano. The issue comes down the road when the player can’t help the team any more or when their question about the HOF comes up. Then they are horrible cheaters and there is no place in the game for them. But while the player is productive the fans welcome them.
There is definitely a double standard. Likable guys like David Ortiz and Andy Pettitte get passes for cheating but unlikeable guy like ARod, Clemens and Barry Bonds are treated like axe murderers.

I'm guilty too, I have an issue with Cano but I love the Mets so I will root for him.
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Well, Edelman didn't break every sacred football record so it's tolerated more.

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How many sportswriters in Boston this morning who were outraged about the Mejía signing last week are equally ripping Edelman this morning? Yeah, not many. Sure he’s the toast of the town today. Not a cheater like that other guy. Sure Edelman jerseys through the roof in the next week.
Actually, Edelman jerseys have been selling very well for years now.
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Old 02-04-2019, 09:19 AM
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Guy suspended this year was allowed to play in the showcase event of the sport. A little weird, no?

I got not no axe to grind about the pats or Edelman. Just hate double standards.
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double standard? 2 different leagues right? what are you talking about?
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Apples and oranges. Every sport has their own policies on PED violations. Why shouldn't he have played in the SB? My gut tells me that lots of guys are using in the NFL and somehow do not get caught. If he passes the sniff test then he should be suited up and ready to go. If you think the NFL might be too loose on their PED policy, well that is a different story.
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Apples and oranges. Every sport has their own policies on PED violations. Why shouldn't he have played in the SB? My gut tells me that lots of guys are using in the NFL and somehow do not get caught. If he passes the sniff test then he should be suited up and ready to go. If you think the NFL might be too loose on their PED policy, well that is a different story.
I think a lot of guys are using in the NFL. Hell, probably most of them are. But why are we so outraged that a baseball player who probably has $100 in the bank and is hanging on by a thread uses something (despicable, scum of the earth, etc.) but don't have a problem looking the other way in football -- an entire sport that's all about brute force and power. I just don't get the double standard. If doping is despicable cheating in baseball and cycling and many other sports why isn't it in football?
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