HOF Boxing RC list - the top 100 of all time.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

This is going ot be the eternal debate on this topic. What is considered a card? You could probably ask 50 people and get 50 different responses.

For me, a card is part of a set, no one-ofs. It's also something that is issued (or intended to be issued) in a pack of something -- tobacco, gum, candy, soap, hot dogs, or just a pack of the cards.

If we include fighter-issued promotional pieces should we include posters? Or photos? Or any item that simply uses the fighter's image?

I would include Exhibits but not post cards (unless issued as a set) or one-of promotional pieces.

And where did this notion come from that foreign cards don't count as rookies? I've never heard that one before. If that's the case, this is going to be one boring list.

[wake.up.the.echoes]

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger

And where did this notion come from that foreign cards don't count as rookies? I've never heard that one before. If that's the case, this is going to be one boring list.

AND highly inaccurate.

To each, his own. Back into my hole.

Alan

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger

And where did this notion come from that foreign cards don't count as rookies? I've never heard that one before. If that's the case, this is going to be one boring list.

Back in the day when the rookie nonsense was at its height and Beckett was the only game in town, their classification of rookie cards excluded anything that was not available in the USA when issued. All of those cards were deemed "XRC" for "extra rookie cards" and not accorded the same valuation as a 'real' RC. All of the Leaf "RCs" from the 1980s were treated as XRCs, for example.

As for what is a card, that's another debate. One way that I frame it is that anything catalogued in the ACC is a card. That is pretty much my baseline, and it goes from there.

[oldmanvintagecards]

You learn something new everyday. I had no idea that Exhibits from the 1920's had dates on the back. I don't collect exhibits because I lump them in with postcards (which I don't consider cards, but many do). As for Beckett listing only American cards as rookies, they only covered the 4 major North American sports where that would make sense. Boxing cards are not from a purely North American sport, so that designation can not work for this sport. If that designation were to apply across the board then there would never be a cricket, rugby or any other foreign sport rookie because America doesnt make cards for these sports. Beckett only originally had price guides for the 4 North American sports, so it makes perfect sense that a rookie, according to them, could only come from N. America.

As for the argument about what a card is, I kind of go with the eye test. Exhibits look like postcards to me, so that is what I consider them. Sportscasters look like flimsy pieces of paper to me, so I consider them pictures on flimsy pieces of paper (although I do own some). Hemmets Journal "cards" were never meant to be cut in to cards, so I consider the Hemmets Journal Cassius Clay to be a picture cut out. No two people are going to agree on what is or what isn't a card every time, but we can all use our eyes and your logic to judge for yourself...Now it is off to bed for me since I have to be up bright and early to go to a charity bar crawl tomorrow haha.

[RBrown]

Do they have to be a card?

How about a round metal disc..........

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Issued in packs and part of a set... works for me. Rectangle, square, circle, rhombus, whatever.

[miklia]

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger

Issued in packs and part of a set... works for me. Rectangle, square, circle, rhombus, whatever.

My all-time top 50 parallelogram set is not going well.



Thanks for the expert thoughts as always, guys. I'll continue to update the top post as we get more info and push towards consensus here and there. Exhibit cards with stats on back seem to be a no brainer now.

[wrestlingcardking]

Where is an image of a B HOP Rookie? Awesome to see him win a title again this weekend.