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Old 08-02-2011, 09:24 AM
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Default Rizzuto & Slaughter "Real" RC Debate

A thread on the BST got me wondering what issue the true RCs of Phil Rizzuto and Enos Slaughter are from. SGC recognizes them as 1948 Bowman, however as we all know they are also both featured in the 1941 Double Play series. As a Post-War HOF RC collector, I would be interested to see what the majority thinks. I am not sure if it is obvious, or if there is a debate.

Would love to hear your thoughts.

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Old 08-02-2011, 10:12 AM
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A thread on the BST got me wondering what issue the true RCs of Phil Rizzuto and Enos Slaughter are from. SGC recognizes them as 1948 Bowman, however as we all know they are also both featured in the 1941 Double Play series. As a Post-War HOF RC collector, I would be interested to see what the majority thinks. I am not sure if it is obvious, or if there is a debate.

Would love to hear your thoughts.

Thanks - Rob
For me there's no debate:
RC for both -- 1941 Double Play (I believe was issued in Mass)
next 1947 Bread cards

1st Mainstream RC - 1948 Bowman

I believe a lot of post-war RC collectors go after the 1st mainstream card issued which I believe would be the Bowman.
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Here's a few more:
Frank Robinson --> 56 Kahn's or 57 Topps

Stan Musial --> 46-47 Prop Montiel or 47 Bond Bread or 48 Bowman or 48-49 Leaf
Although I'd accept all 4 as RC's the 46-47 card does not show Musial in a MLB uniform. I believe it's a Cuban league card or something.
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:21 AM
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Rizzuto & Slaughter - Definitely Double Plays along with Lou Boudreau
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For some reason even Beckett and, I believe, the SCD also list the '48 as RC's for Rizzuto and Slaughter. Beckett also designates the '41 Double Plays as XRC's...That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I'm pretty sure the Double Plays were a mainstream release, were available in packs, and are legitimately cards. I know the Double Plays were produced in Mass., but I believe were more widely released. I believe Beckett also credits the '48 Bowman as Feller's rookie. C'mon now. That's just not right..

Either way it breaks down, when it comes to my HOF Rookie collection, I just wouldn't be satisfied with the '48's of either, while knowing that they had widely available cards that were issued in pack form 7 years earlier.

It's one thing to overlook the Bond Breads, or some other somewhat obscure regional/local team set or food giveaway, to credit a national release that is maybe a year or two later. But to give away 7 years on a set that seemingly meets all typical standards, doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

To each their own though.
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Dan/Phil/David

Thanks for the responses, and I agree on all accounts. Pretty much just wanted to confirm what I always thought.

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No doubt it's the '41 Double Play for both. That was a mainstream issue, albeit not the most attractive.

In fact, Slaughter shares his card with Johnny Mize, making it a double RC for both if I'm not wrong.
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