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Old 06-05-2017, 05:49 AM
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Default 1975 Topps Yount RC BVG 9.5 to PSA Crossover Experiment

Hey Folks,

I want to get your opinion on a (possible) first-time crossover attempt for me. I just got this 1975 Topps Yount RC, BVG 9.5 Gem Mint (old case), and am considering sending it to PSA to see if I can get a 10. I've compared it to some PSA 10s and it looks good to me, but what say you? If the back looks a little off center, they're all that way.
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Old 06-05-2017, 06:27 AM
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From what I understand the odds are greatly against you on this type of crossover. To me, anything 9 and above looks the same anyway.
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Old 06-05-2017, 08:25 AM
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Would the print spot in the "B" hurt it?
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Old 06-05-2017, 08:36 AM
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One of the 10's I compared it to had the same print mark a little higher and to the left, so I don't think so
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Old 06-05-2017, 08:44 AM
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I think that is a huge roll of the dice. The back is off center and PSA has gotten really tough in the last couple of years. I think the odds of landing a 10 are really high. I would leave in Beckett slab.
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Old 06-05-2017, 10:35 AM
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Top right corner appears just slightly soft too. I don't think this will cross ever. If you crack out it could be PSA's idea of an 8 or a kiss of death like trimmed or a resub loop of minsizerq. I would leave as is.

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Old 06-05-2017, 10:49 AM
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The best you'll do with PSA is a straight 10. After that, it's 9 or less since the highest half grade PSA issues is 8.5.

Odds are you drop a grade or more switching over.

If you want a PSA slab, switch it over. If you want the grade, leave it as is.

If you switch, let us know the outcome!
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Old 06-05-2017, 11:27 AM
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Jason, you'll never know unless you try. The centering, color, and picture focus registry are worthy of a PSA 10. Go for it! That is, after you ascertain the best way to SAFELY extract a card from a BVG holder.

Here's wishing you the very best, bro, in your experiment. ---Brian Powell
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Old 06-05-2017, 11:38 AM
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Find someone politically connected and have them try in the holder.
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Jason, you'll never know unless you try. The centering, color, and picture focus registry are worthy of a PSA 10. Go for it! That is, after you ascertain the best way to SAFELY extract a card from a BVG holder.

Here's wishing you the very best, bro, in your experiment. ---Brian Powell


...Go into the smallest room/closet in your house , with really good lighting. WEAR SAFETY GLASSES....I always crack Becketts at the top right corner , using long-handled bolt cutters.
..P.S.---That appears to be a newer label ; as there are no sub-grades front nor back...


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One of the 10's I compared it to had the same print mark a little higher and to the left, so I don't think so
Some 10s are better than others...

always thought PSA can declare a 'best 10' that you can see on psa cert look up to which is the current best 10
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always thought PSA can declare a 'best 10' that you can see on psa cert look up to which is the current best 10
They could call that one an 11
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I see this off center left to right on front and back...I wouldn't send to PSA if it were mine.


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DO NOT CRACK OUT. Resubmit multiple times as a crossover if you feel it's PSA worthy, but DO NOT CRACK OUT.
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DO NOT CRACK OUT. Resubmit multiple times as a crossover if you feel it's PSA worthy, but DO NOT CRACK OUT.
Also make sure it's not "sheet cut". I have two 74s graded BVG 9.5 I tried to cross that came back EOT.
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Yes, checking that the card is full size is very important when trying to cross over BGS to PSA. Luckily though, PSA will give you the MINSIZREQ to let you know that's the problem if it doesn't cross. And make sure to specify PSA 10 as the min grade to crossover, unless you'll still be able to make a profit on a PSA 9.
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The BVG 9.5 Yount is sheet cut. Zero percent chance it will cross. Zero percent chance it will end up in a numbered PSA holder if broken out and submitted.
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Why respond with that answer without explaining why you think it's sheet cut? Why declare that it is, and provide zero evidence?
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Why respond with that answer without explaining why you think it's sheet cut? Why declare that it is, and provide zero evidence?
At least three of the sides don't look like anything that came out of packs in 1975. They have a distinct "paper cutter" look, although a different instrument may have been used. The angle of the cut is completely wrong. Even vending doesn't look like that.

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Thanks for the rationale.
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At least three of the sides don't look like anything that came out of packs in 1975. They have a distinct "paper cutter" look, although a different instrument may have been used. The angle of the cut is completely wrong. Even vending doesn't look like that.
Michael -- is this common in your experience with Beckett-graded cards? I have heard rumors that they have graded lots of sheet-cut cards, whether knowingly or not.
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Exactly what Brian said and in my experiences yes I have seen many sheet cut or outright trimmed cards in bvg holders. A higher percentage than the percentage of osa and sgc cards that I have seen in holders. There was a time it was a crazy amount this has gotten better but in no way do I trust them catching trimmed cards.
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