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Old 10-21-2019, 02:39 PM
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System going down, near the end of the auction, for whatever reason . . . .

Seems to be something we have now seen with most of the major AHs in the last year. Very odd.

If I was the leading bidder on a high priced item and someone then proceeded to bid in extended, extended hours, moving my bid up higher after they had days to do so . . . I'd think long and hard about whether to honor my commitment. Is there boiler plate language in the terms of auction basically saying "you still need to honor you commitment to pay regardless of what crazy things goes wrong with the closing of the auction regardless of how ridiculous it is. . . ." I'm sure there is. If I thought something potentially fraudulent was going on my response may well I'm withdrawing my bid. If that's not acceptable perhaps my second response would be let's litigate it, and I'll need to see all your documents (including emails) as to exactly what went wrong and why so I understand what reasonable precautions you took before and during the problem to protect me a customer. Maybe then I'll make a decision as to how I want to proceed.

And I'm not suggesting that any of these incidents were problematic. I have no proof of that. But as a customer of all of them this is alarming. Particularly where the AH and their employees can bid on an item.
Legally you can ALWAYS retract a bid up until the time the item is declared sold
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Old 10-21-2019, 06:01 PM
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Legally you can ALWAYS retract a bid up until the time the item is declared sold
Scott-I don’t believe you are right. You must accept Goldin’s terms and conditions before bidding. The following statement is in these terms:

“Placing a bid is a legal contract. Once a bid is placed, you cannot retract it. ”

Since you have already contractually agreed to this you cannot retract a bid, once placed, without the approval of the auction house.

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Scott-I don’t believe you are right. You must accept Goldin’s terms and conditions before bidding. The following statement is in these terms:

“Placing a bid is a legal contract. Once a bid is placed, you cannot retract it. ”

Since you have already contractually agreed to this you cannot retract a bid, once placed, without the approval of the auction house.
I have this discussion periodically on here. It is a UCC right. You can't sign away your UCC rights. They can say whatever they want. They can refuse your bid but they can't refuse your retraction once they accept your bid.
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you are wrong. you continue to apply the rules of live local auctions to online auctions. apples and oranges. i need a license to conduct a live auction. as long as I pay bob freedman his fee for software I can be up and running tomorrow with an online auction. I would think you would know better.
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