Ty Cobb auto - Real or Fake, Need help!

[case1820]

Hello everyone,

First post on here as I just signed up. I had recently purchased this Cobb autograph from a local auction that I attended. Everything about it seemed legit but after reading about all the forgeries out there I am a little gun shy. Not sure if I should send it in to PSA or JSA to get authenticated. I want to thank everyone in advance for any and all help on this one. I am trying to get a few Detroit Tigers vintage autographs for my personal collection.

Thanks,
Casey

[GrayGhost]

Welcome to the board, first off.

Looks pretty good to me, but I shall defer to Richard, David, Chris or other experts for a more qualified opinion.

[ScottR81]

Looks pretty nice, I vote PSA mostly because of the amount of money they spend on advertising.

[CMIZ5290]

Casey- looks nice, but the concerns i see is the letter t in Ty. also, the letter o is double inverted, you don't see that much. hope it checks out for you. if i had to vote, i would say it probably would not pass.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by ScottR81

Looks pretty nice, I vote PSA mostly because of the amount of money they spend on advertising.

Good one Scott,,,

[Tigerden]

Casey. Welcome to the board and good luck in your pursuit of Detroit Tigers autographs. I would send the signature into JSA for authentication because it is Cobb and,yes, due to the value of his signature, forgeries do exist.

[travrosty]

You need to send it to someone to find out if it is REAL. not to get a cert. You didn't buy the cert, you bought the autograph.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by ScottR81

Looks pretty nice, I vote PSA mostly because of the amount of money they spend on advertising.

Nice one.

I also give them my vote, mainly for the great job they did on the Gretzky Wagner.

[case1820]

I am sensing some heavy sarcasm here, go easy on me guys I'm a newbie. ScottR81 and Runscott, do you think this might be an authentic one or did I get screwed over. I did spend $350 on it so could have been worse if its garbage.

[jcmtiger]

I think it's good, compared to my Cobb letter and Cobb check.

Joe

[Mr. Zipper]

The paraph appears to be executed a little slowly with some wavering. Was that typical for Cobb? Slow and wavering is usually not a good sign in general, but perhaps Cobb did do them that way.

[travrosty]

I meant that if you are determined to send it in to someone and no one could talk you out of it, then make sure you find out if it is real and that is the number one goal rather than what the cert can get for you.

It is absolutely amazing what one can read all over the internet regarding certs and the reasoning people have to send the item in to one company over another company or over a competent individual or seasoned dealer.

I have seen a dozen reasons , with not one involving whether or not the person was interested in getting the most accurate opinion on whether the autograph is in fact genuine. Other factors people mentioned were.

How much can the cert get me for resale value.
which cert is the most accepted in the hobby.
Does ebay like the cert
which company is the most well known.
which fee is the cheapest or most expensive
which one shakes my hand and hands out christmas calendars (joking, but not too far off)

it used to amaze me that these reasons would come first over trying to find out if the autograph is real, but collectors in all shapes, sizes and iq levels.

some of them are buying the cert, not the item. the cert is what is worth the money, and even if the prevailing company made a mistake, the autograph is still worth a mint, because the cert says so, and these collectors don't care if the autograph is bogus.

conversely, some collectors get an autograph wrongly knocked down by a large company, and even though the autograph can be proven to be legit, they don't want it if they cant get a cert for it. its worthless to them even though it is real. They want the cert and they are going to go through hell and high water to get that cert, or the good autograph can go in trash bin, that's all that matters to them.

Some day autographs will be like gold, not changing hands, just certs changing hands saying that it is out there somewhere, and it is authentic.

The autograph doesnt have to be real, just authentic.

Travis Roste

[case1820]

Travis, well said...

Since this is for my own collection I really have no concern on who would bring the top dollar on ebay, just want to feel confident it's real. The few autos that I'm collecting are Cobb, Greenberg, Newhouser and Gehringer to add to a lithograph that's been signed by the other living Tigers on it.