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Old 06-14-2019, 09:23 PM
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Default What Are the 'Official' SP High Numbers of 1966 and 1967??

I know the topic has been covered to death, but are we any closer to officially declaring which 1966 and 1967 high numbers are the true SP's of the set?? When I search the subject, I find a lot of contradictory info out there, and I'd like to be more knowledgeable when I'm digging through cards at the next show. I don't believe there are examples of both uncut print sheets from either year out there. If I'm correct, there's just the one half-sheet (whatever the correct technical jargon is) known and the SP's (based on the layout of the unknown half-sheet that was paired with the 'known' sheet) are merely based on educated speculation.

Anyone have any serious info, or is it all still just conjecture, despite what the price guides say?
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Old 06-15-2019, 06:42 AM
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Without seeing full sheets, it will always be opinion, right?

When I was putting my Mets collection together, pre-internet, I saw 3 1966 Choo Choo Colemans for evey Lou Klimchock and it literally took me years to find a NrMt 1967 Shaw/Sutherland. Yet I saw many Wes Westrums. I'm sure others have completely different experiences.
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Old 06-15-2019, 08:37 AM
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Having started a forum question similar to this recently and receiving some great photos of selected uncut 7th series sheets, my opinion is that there are couple degrees of sp's.
Given the sheets may have been 10 x11, it makes sense that a row of 11 or 2 rows are the true sp's. This follows the 67 trend that has pretty much been vetted out via at least 1 uncut sheet.
However saying this, and looking at the partial uncut sheets, I think that 66 was done differently, in 8 or 12 ct small sheets. My opinion only. But my top sp'd are (and Ive been following this set for a longtime are:

in no particular order

591 Jackson
524 giants r
540 mclain
538 allen
543 craig
590 skowron
561 coleman
562 Snyder
586 Raymond
598 perry
563 twins r

547 Clarke is a rookie and ive never thought in belonged in this group.

Tough omits from the 11:

555 peranoski
541 oliver
589 klimchock
570 mahaffey
528 gonder

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Could someone do a survey of all the high numbers on eBay? This might give some clue as to relative numbers. Also, it would be interesting to see the POP reports. Of course, some stars may show up more often in this type of research as they are more likely to be sold individually or more likely to have been sent to a TPG.
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The '66 Billy Williams is always listed as an SP, but IMO it's never really that hard to find or expensive.
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Having started a forum question similar to this recently and receiving some great photos of selected uncut 7th series sheets, my opinion is that there are couple degrees of sp's.
Given the sheets may have been 10 x11, it makes sense that a row of 11 or 2 rows are the true sp's.
All sheets are 12 x 11
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