Koester Bread

[Bob Lemke]

The statement was made in a recent thread that despite some collectors' claim to the contrary, there is no discernible difference between the Giants/Yankees in the Koester Bread checklist and the same players' cards when found in E121 Series of 80 or Series of 120.

If that's the case, the premium value for such Koesters should probably be eliminated.

What's your take on that?

Are you aware of any photo, caption, team changes between players cards in E121 and Koester that would affect their exclusive status?

Thanks for your input!

[kkkkandp]

I remember asking Lew Lipset years ago how one distinguished between an E121 and a Koester's Bread card. My recollection is that his answer was that there were several schools of thought at the time, none of which really held any water.

If there is no physical chracteristic that can definitively identify a card as a Koester's issue, I'm not sure any collector would want to pay a premium for it when it could just as easily be (and probably is) an E121.

Unless the player is one that does not appear in the E121 list, but has been catalogued as a Koester issue (like the one below), I don't see how there can be a premium attached to it.

[paul]

Is that card for sale?

[fkw]

It should be W575-1 not E121 as its obviously very easy to tell a E121 from a Koesters card.

On many of the cards there are some differences. Some cards show the "OF" as "Outf." on Koesters

Here is one of Rhetts cards for example

[Brian Van Horn]

Here is another example:

[kkkkandp]

Does anyone know if a complete Koester set (in the collector album) exists?

[Bob Lemke]

Are all Koester's outfielder's cards "Outf."?

That would argue for them to carry a premium.

[rman444]

Originally Posted by Bob Lemke

Are all Koester's outfielder's cards "Outf."?

That would argue for them to carry a premium.

Except for the ones that are not outfielders?

[paul]

I believe that Rhett mentioned on another thread that the non-strip-card version of the W575 set also uses the "outf." designation. But I'm too lazy to track it down.