2nd Opinion requested on Ebay T206 Crawford

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Posted By: Brian

Will someone please agree with me that this card is without any shadow of a doubt, bogus? OR HAVE I LOST IT?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-T206-Sam-Crawford-batting-78-RARE_W0QQitemZ5233261492QQcategoryZ86840QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem




Seller's response to my question:
I work for Beckett in Dallas and I think I would know a real card when I see one. Thank you though

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Posted By: Don J

Absolutely without a doubt FAKE.

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Posted By: Bryan

I think that almost goes without saying. I do like the how the seller took a lighter to this card and the Cy Young and the Eddie Collins he is also selling. Nice touch.

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Posted By: Joey

To me there is no doubt that the Crawford is about as fake as they come. Hmmm, where'e the artificial aging? No grimy old tobacco staining or dirt. On second thought maybe it is real;)

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Posted By: James Feagin

The type on the players should be enough. F-A-K-E

James

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Posted By: Brian

thanks all, case closed! It was the sellers response to my question/accusation that brought me to post this

Brian

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Posted By: Scott Elkins

he cannot tell a blatant T206 fake! I remember in Beckett's old price guides, they would list Red Cross, Coupons, etc. as different T206 backs (instead of different issues). I also remember they listed a "Hustler" back. I have only seen the "Hustler" back on non-baseball cards period. Though, I did always look for a baseball card with a Hustler back, as I figured there might be some baseball issue with that back to justify Beckett's adding them as a T206 back type.

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Posted By: Texas Ted

The guy probably does not work for Beckett, but if he does I'm sure they will be delighted to see his using them as "reference" to the legitimacy of this card. My guess is either the auction or the guy will be terminated shortly.

Texas Ted

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Crawford is a reprint. Someone should take a lighter to the seller.

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Posted By: bcornell

I know people like to take shots at Beckett's, but this guy is really hitting below the belt with that claim. Not a chance that he works there...

Reporting authenticity disclaimers: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/authenticity-disclaimers.html.


Bill

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Posted By: Brian

unfortunatley there isn't an authenticity dislaimer in this auction...he has one in one of his other auctions

Brian<br />

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Posted By: dennis

it is shocking to not see the disclaimer in this guys auctions. imagine working for beckett and still not slabbing your cards in their holders? he now has added in his discription that he works at becket but bid at your own risk. makes becket look real professional.

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Posted By: Mike P.

I emailed him and basically said his cards are some of the worst fakes I have seen and that if he works at beckett why not just get the card slabbed and remove all doubt of the authenticity.

HIS RESPONSE:
I'm sorry you feel this way. I do work at beckett, call and ask for Rob, I can even give you the number if you'd like. Like it says, the card came out of my grandfathers collection, exactly the way it is shown. I have a 1933 Goudey Babe Ruth Beckett Graded 4 that I will be posting tomorrow, as well as a 1911 T205 Ty Cobb #30, Beckett Graded 5, which will post tomorrow as well. Check back and see the scans. Then tell me if it looks likes to you that I have to post fakes.. I am just looking to get rid of some stuff for my grandmother.

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Posted By: Brian

I wonder if the guy really works for Beckett...what would happen to BVG credibility if it was slabbed? I don't own any BVG and if they did slabbed one of these, I might trust Pro more

Brian

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Well if he entombed Ruth and Cobb in plastic, why not this one????? We know why.

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Posted By: WayneGrove

The guy doesn't work at Beckett as far as I know, and if he really did it would not be for long after doing something like that. They have pretty strict rules about things like that and even mentioning that he works at Beckett in order to sell something would be grounds for dismissal. I know all of the graders at Beckett and there is not a grader named Rob. I would further say that anytime you see a seller claiming that he works at Beckett that should send a red flag about the guys auctions just as much as saying that the cards came from grandpa's attic does. Just another scammer.

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Posted By: bcornell

He has ascended to NARU heaven. Wait til he finds out his imaginary job is gone, too...

Bill

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Posted By: Brian

I have complained and reported to Ebay on countless bogus auctions, including authenticity disclaimers and the like. Usually they do nothing, somethings they cancel the auction but don't boot the seller.

I wonder what criteria they used to NARU him; I'm happy to see it happen though!

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Posted By: Anonymous

That totally looks like a fake to me. Just look at the back. Sorry, it sounds like this guy is a douche as well.

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Posted By: Robert {Bigb13}

As fake as can be! Rob {Bigb13}

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Posted By: Dave H

What is NARU on eBay?

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Posted By: Keith O'Leary

"N"o longer "A" "R"egistered "U"ser