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Old 09-13-2022, 09:18 PM
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I wish Bonds wasn't such a self absorbed prick and a steroid user, he really was a great hitter.
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this is a prediction thread...not a running tally!
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Re-read the first post, predicting time is long over.
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Just checked Judge's Home vs. Road splits, and they are shockingly similar all across the board, for anybody concerned Judge is having this great season solely from benefiting from Yankee Stadiums cozy confines. If anything he's very slightly better on the road.

Out of curiosity I checked the splits for Roger Maris during 1961, and his Home/Road splits were also pretty identical.

Both of Judge's homers tied the game last night. 1st one in the 6th, 2nd one in the 8th, while the Yanks pulled it out in the 10th, thanks to Gleyber Torres's once every two games hit.

Yanks had 8 hits in 10 innings last night. Judge had 3 of them with 2 homers and a Walk and 3 runs scored to go along with it. Amazing run he's on.

I wonder the last time somebody has been on a run like this, with so little help from their team-mates.
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....he would have homered in the 10th had they not walked him.

His base on balls are really starting to increase too I believe.....but should still get to 61.


Better not be a whimper of talk that Ohtani should get MVP, no way, no chance, any writer doesn't vote Judge, should be shot.

Well that might be a little harsh....

......maybe just pushed down a flight of stairs.


Judge is carrying the Yankees single-handedly into the Playoffs. And I can't stand the Yankees, but I know what is right.

I don't care what Ohtoni & Trout are doing in their garbage time meaningless games over on the West Coast. They folded during crunch time..........yet again.

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great 35 - 45 home run guy for sure...
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Ohtani leads in ZERO batting categories.....and only 1 pitching category.....wild pitches.

Aaron Judge leads in 10 offensive categories (Home Runs, RBI, Walks, .OBP, SLG, OPS, OPS+, Total Bases, IBB, Runs).

Judge has the Yankees in first place by 6 games in what may be the toughest division in baseball. The Angels were eliminated I believe at the All Star Break.

Judge might win the Triple Crown (which has happened ONCE since Yaz in '67).

He will tie or beat one of the Greatest records of All Time 61 Home Runs in a season.

And you think Ohtani sniffs Judge this season, you should be shot!......or thrown down a flight of stairs.........or at least be egged by a bunch of neighborhood kids.

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So the fact that Ohtani fills two roles allows you to add the worst player on your team to your roster. How valuable is that when push comes to shove, I don't know how to quantify it.
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So the fact that Ohtani fills two roles allows you to add the worst player on your team to your roster. How valuable is that when push comes to shove, I don't know how to quantify it.
Well, one consideration is that with Verlander as your ace, you need to build the rest of your team, including (presumably) a dedicated DH and slate of RHP and LHP to start, setup and close. If Ohtani is your ace, you can literally have the exact same lineup with one extra roster spot. This flexibility could be used for a luxury specialist that has one or two tools, but not enough versatility to fit on a normal roster.

Imagine a player that hits .212, mediocre defender, but a true expert on the basepaths. He probably gets a couple shots in the big leagues, but keeps getting sent down because he doesn't have the BA or fielding skills to stay on the bench. But, if you have the extra spot because Ohtani fills two spots, you have a guy that can start every extra inning game on 3rd base with no outs and can score on any fly ball. This is also true if you get a runner on second or third in the 8th-9th inning in a tie game or down by a run. It is very niche, but it could literally be a difference of 4-6 games over the course of a season. That is a WAR of 4-6 by virtue of the fact the alternative is not having that person at all.

Alternatively, maybe you have a pitcher that gets lit up against righties, but is unhittable against lefties. Again, not versatile enough to take a bullpen spot on alot of clubs, but with one extra roster spot, you have a lefty closer that you can put into any game.

That flexibility has tremendous value to alot of teams (especially a team managed well - not necessarily one that can't make September interesting with two players that may go down as all time greats). It is not just the ability to bring in a 4th string middle infielder off the waiver wire to keep the Gatorade and sunflower seeds stocked on the bench.
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Check out the pitcher and catchers reaction to #59.



https://www.mlb.com/video/aaron-judg...t-center-field

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And now he is hitting .316 just a little outside the triple crown.

Amazing and will be an interesting end of season run
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And you think Ohtani sniffs Judge this season, you should be shot!......or thrown down a flight of stairs.........or at least be egged by a bunch of neighborhood kids.
It’s terribly tragic, encountering other views.
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Ohtani has been amazing all season and he is highly valuable for his pitching and hitting both at such high levels.

Still Judge all the way however it would have been interesting if Los Angeles Angels were in first place how the conversation might go.

But as it is Still Judge
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Ohtani is a step above Rick Ankiel
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Without Judge the Yankees would not be in first place and may not even make the playoffs.

With him they are in first place and will be playing in the post season.

Without Obtani the Angels would be spending October playing golf.

With Obtani the Angels will be spending October playing golf.

Obtani is a good player but no MVP this year.

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