Bite by three dogs...what to do?

[pgellis]

You can only try to educate an ignorant person for so long. David is not going to change his mind. He's read everything he has needed to form his prejudice opinion.

All of your personal experience with pitbulls is impressive.

And you would have me euthanize my dog because someone was attacked by a "pit bull" in California? That makes a heck of a lot of sense.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by pgellis

You can only try to educate an ignorant person for so long. David is not going to change his mind. He's read everything he has needed to form his prejudice opinion.

All of your personal experience with pitbulls is impressive.

And you would have me euthanize my dog because someone was attacked by a "pit bull" in California? That makes a heck of a lot of sense.

No, Phil, I'm not going to change my mind. I've seen too many stories, video footage and pictures of the aftermath of a pit bull attack. It bothers me even more when it's a child.

What does California have to do with anything? Are pit bull attacks isolated to only California?

[pgellis]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

No, Phil, I'm not going to change my mind. I've seen too many stories, video footage and pictures of the aftermath of a pit bull attack. It bothers me even more when it's a child.

What does California have to do with anything? Are pit bull attacks isolated to only California?

This entire discussion evolved from the OP's unfortunate incident that took place in California. You made your ignorant opinion public by saying that you think all pit bulls should be euthanized.

So, I merely asked that "Should I have to euthanize my pet due to the circumstances of the OP that occurred in California"?

[packs]

It is just frustrating that someone who apparently has no experience at all with a pit bull would be so dismissive when people who have experience with pit bulls share their point of view.

[Econteachert205]

I'm more of a cat person myself. But cats or dogs, it is the human owner who should be sued for allowing their violent dogs to attack in such a way.

Ps. Pit bulls or whatever bull brand you want to label it scare the crap out me. So do german shepherds, dobermans, Rottweilers and over active labs. All could bite. Most do not.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by packs

It is just frustrating that someone who apparently has no experience at all with a pit bull would be so dismissive when people who have experience with pit bulls share their point of view.

It's also very frustrating that every pit bull owner will tell you the same thing - "Oh, my pit bull would never attack. She's a good family pet and great with the kids" - until it actually happens.

Why is it that all pit bull owners will tell you the same thing, but pit bulls are responsible for a large percent of dog attacks?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by pgellis

This entire discussion evolved from the OP's unfortunate incident that took place in California. You made your ignorant opinion public by saying that you think all pit bulls should be euthanized.

So, I merely asked that "Should I have to euthanize my pet due to the circumstances of the OP that occurred in California"?

Ok, Phil, let me throw some statistics at you that might hit you a little closer to home (statistics below from Boston).

In 2011, there were 267 reported dog attacks, 54 by pit bulls (20%)
In 2012, there were 251 reported dog attacks, 53 by pit bulls (21%)
In 2013, there were 287 reported dog attacks, 88 by pit bulls (30%)
I do not have complete data for 2014, but at the time the article was published, there were 123 reported dog attacks, 39 by pit bulls (32%)

Notice a trend in the increase?

But pit bulls only make up 3% of the dog population in Boston.

Phil, it doesn't matter what part of the country we're talking about, all the stats are pretty close.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

No, Phil, I'm not going to change my mind. I've seen too many stories, video footage and pictures of the aftermath of a pit bull attack. It bothers me even more when it's a child.

What does California have to do with anything? Are pit bull attacks isolated to only California?

I really hate to bring this up, but I found your posts a bit ironic considering the stances and arguments you make as a hyper-vigilant gun rights advocate.

Rationalizations are brought up like, Pools are dangerous to, why don't we ban pools. Kids die in pools all the time.

From statistics I can find 307 people total have been killed in the U.S. AND Canada by Pit Bulls and Pit Bull mixes in the 32 year span of 1982 to 2014. That's "total"! Kids, Adults, etc......

http://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/32-year-...ack-trends.pdf


Now, I'm going to forget about total gun deaths per year in the U.S. alone, because that's just not fair. Total accidental gun deaths alone.........scrap that out because it's just a vulgar number.

How about just total "accidental" gun deaths in the U.S. alone for children under the age of 18. It's a tough statistic to even pin down, but it seems it ranges in the "100" number.....per year. About half that if you count children under the age of 13.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/p...-we-dont-know/


I won't even get into the number of people maimed by dogs (all dogs), compared to the number of people maimed by guns.

But I bet, depending on the state you live in, you can bring any number of guns into a PetSmart, without any repercussions at all.

Funny, it just so happens the gun lobby is far more powerful then the pit bull lobby.

You may claim none of this makes any sense to you, they are strawman arguments, not relevant to the point...........but I would disagree with you, especially if I chose to attack with the same logic you are to this topic.

[packs]

I'm expressing my own opinions which I've formed during my own experiences. You are telling me my experiences are invalid because of someone else's third hand account. But you have nothing to add yourself. So that is frustrating for many other reasons than the hypothetical arguments you're making.

[D. Bergin]

As to the original poster in this thread. I'm sorry you had to go through what you did. Depending on what state you live in, it's pretty cut and dry regarding dog bites that you could get a fairly significant payout from the homeowners insurance company, should you want to go that route, without very much resistance at all. Especially if your injuries have been well documented.

Myself, in my 6 year career as a UPS delivery driver, I was bitten a good half a dozen times by different dogs. Never really serious, except for one time. Always had it taken care of at an urgent care center, and then UPS's insurance company would go after them to cover the health care costs, whatever they might have been. I never went after them personally for compensation, but might have a different view if I was attacked as bad as you were.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Pit bulls were originally bred for blood sports. That is documented fact, whether anybody agrees or not. They were bred to attack and kill. Period.

Let's say I own both a gun and a pit bull. I can control whether my gun kills or not. I cannot control whether my pit bull is going to attack or not.

You're right, I don't think it's relevant, but I did address it.

[packs]

Most modern dogs were bred to hunt or provide protection for their masters (i.e. attacking intruders). That is a moot point.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by packs

Most modern dogs were bred to hunt. That is a moot point.

There is a huge difference in blood sports (for entertainment purposes) and hunting. If you don't understand the difference between the two, I don't know what else to say.

[packs]

I do understand the differences but I would bet a dog does not.