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Lol didn't even cross my mind.
Like I said not for me but I love a good steak and my leather jacket so I would be a pretty big hypocrite if I objected. Last edited by Jim65; 06-29-2019 at 07:45 PM. |
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Maybe some people should look up the whole story on that giraffe hunt.
This is copied from a BBC article and is true of many places. This "consumptive utilisation of wildlife" model ("it pays it stays") also works well in some other regions. The Bubye Valley Conservancy in Zimbabwe for example has more than 400 lions and one of the most important populations of rhino still in existence. The Conservancy is funded entirely by hunting and, according to the reserve manager Blondie Leathem, a ban would be "devastating". |
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People who don’t know anything about wildlife conservation and hunting and how they go together, are usually the people who cry about killing animals.
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and eat hamburgers.
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Sometimes animals that are shot don't die quickly. Some are only wounded and die in agony. And I despise the poachers who kill elephants purely for the ivory.
That said, last night my wife and I split a cheeseburger, and in the last couple of weeks I've had a lobster roll, flank steak, and eaten chicken four or five times. So am I any better than the people I despise? Probably not. Life is complicated and full of contradictions. I get it. I'm a flawed human being. |
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It is the purpose of killing. Food/Pleasure. Please don't unite the two.
Pulling a trigger and watching a great animal bleed to death in pain for personal pleasure so as one can place his/her foot on it for a heroic photo shoot. Make handbags out it - perhaps cutting head off to hang in their home. That's a Sport? Torture a bull by spearing it, then as it's bleeding, drive a sword-blade through its brain for the pleasure of watching. Cheer the swordsman. Nothing to do with hamburgers. |
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No matter what, think about this. We as older men pay money, sometimes a lot of it to buy pictures of younger athletic men in uniforms. Let that sink in, then bash other peoples hobbies/sports. |
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Yeah many of the organized hunts in Africa are a good thing, for wildlife and economies. I do have a problem with hunting endangered species for any reason. Giraffes are currently listed as vulnerable and like many things in life I'm not sure where you draw the line.
I do have a problem with hunting any creature, let alone a non-aggressive creature, with a high powered rifle and acting like you've achieved something great when you kill it, but that's personal preference and not something that should be mistaken for law.
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Here in Minnesota we have tens of thousands of cute deer with their cute Bambi babies, and when the DNR decides that there are too many that are eating crops and getting hit by cars, they encourage hunters to go into the woods and farms and thin the herd. Not because they hate the animals, and not because they enjoy inflicting death and misery. I would never hunt. I wouldn't even shoot a squirrel. But when I see what happens when human lives are lost in automobile-deer accidents, I am glad there are people who do keep the deer population manageable. I've hit several deer myself over the years. They are really stupid animals. You can be driving towards them, they are along the side of the road looking right at you, and at the last moment they will run in front of you. In fact the last deer I hit actually hit me - it ran into the front driver side tire well, causing damage to the car and probably leaving the deer with damage too. I could never be a hunter but I am glad some can. |
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Deer can be a really bad problem. There is an infestation of them on Eastern Long Island, and countless times I would be driving early in the morning and see one or two dead ones on the side of the road. They are very dangerous to motorists, no doubt.
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Professional marksman are hired to thin the population of herds are absolutely necessary. I believe, most times the animals are slaughtered and used in State intuitions. Again, this is not done as SPORT - for the pleasure of killing, for trophies, taxidermy, or other personal rewards.
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But a lot of the hunters ARE out there purely for sport. Some will cut it open, roll up their sleeves and put their hands and arms into the bloody, dead animal, pull out the entrails, heart, kidneys, whatever else they don't want, and drag the rest of the carcass back to their truck and home to process. That, I think, is certainly justifiable but there is no way I could imagine doing it. But many deer hunters do just kill for sport, cut the heads off to mount on their walls as a trophy so they can point at it and say, "I killed that," with pride in their voice. So how is that different from a controlled hunt at an African preserve? At a high level a decision is made that they have a few more giraffe, or elephants, than optimal, so they sell some hunters a license to shoot one, which makes thousands of dollars for the preserve to care for the other animals? I doubt those hunters are doing so for elephant meat. Look, I could never do it, and I think it doubtful that I'd have much in common with someone who would do that, but if a higher goal is achieved, as with the deer hunting example, then overall it isn't always a bad thing. Animals do reproduce... BTW I do agree with Leon - Bull "fighting" is torture, as is the "sport" of dog fighting. |
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This is exactly the same way I feel. I think killing animals for sport is wrong, but today is Canada Day and I am going to my sister's house to eat some hamburgers. I guess I'm part of the problem too.
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Agree basically, except for the idea we should feel guilty because humans are carnivores. People eating dead animals is not "a problem."
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Eating a hamburger and traveling to Africa to shoot a giraffe are two different things. If you want to hunt, that's your thing but why is it necessary to kill something like a giraffe?
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I believe that woman ate the giraffe she killed. Does that make her less of a monster? What about those doing the killing at a slaughterhouse?
I must admit I tend to root for the bull in any matador fight.
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I guess there's a sense of excitement drives people who go to big game reserves, but I do not connect with that sense of excitement.
Personally, I think the only thing inhumane about animals brought up for slaughter is the life they're forced to endure before slaughter. If you have the time I suggest you look into the conditions inside of chicken farms. There's no reason to treat animals that way, even if they're being bred for food. I have no problem with eating animals to survive, but I do have a problem with them leading horrible lives before they're eaten. Last edited by packs; 07-01-2019 at 05:13 PM. |
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