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Old 03-30-2023, 03:22 AM
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Are you suggesting John McGraw is the guy in the front row at far right? Not much of a resemblance there, but maybe it's just the angle of the photograph or something? Can you post other pictures of him from these games to use as a comparison? Hopefully, I'm wrong.
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Not Babe Ruth here, but Ty Cobb when he played in Cuba at Almendares park back in 1910. I think the Tigers played around 10 exhibition games there and Cobb came in to play in 3 or 4 of them.
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Jollyelm, you say that the one on the far right does not believe he is John McGraw, I will tell you that he played in Cuba in 1891, in 1911 he brought the New York Giants team to Cuba, and over many years he did the same, in 1920 with Babe Ruth, later he came almost every year due to business in Cuba, there is a lot to write about him, I show how he asked me for photos of John McGraw, the 1st one I already published and you have doubts, the 2nd of him and look at the resemblance, the 3rd is from 1911 at Almendares Park, there was a big discussion and the police had to intervene, what happened in that game is a very interesting story, in that photo you will see a red arrow that I put above his head.
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My quote was such:
"Are you suggesting John McGraw is the guy in the front row at far right? Not much of a resemblance there, but maybe it's just the angle of the photograph or something?"

And when I asked for other pictures, I OBVIOUSLY wasn't doubting that he was there, I wanted to see if maybe there were other pictures showing him in street clothes and a 'cowboy' hat sort of thing, but what you posted was a pic of him in uniform, as he seemingly always was when at the field, and you can't see enough of his face to compare it to the chubby white gentleman in the first picture.

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Babe Ruth in Almendares Park, two different photos and a photo of Jai Alai where the Bambino played
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Even though it doesn't look exactly alike, it looks enough that I am going wit it. I haven pictures of myself that look different when taken from different angles.
Cool pics and story, Roland.

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My quote was such:
"Are you suggesting John McGraw is the guy in the front row at far right? Not much of a resemblance there, but maybe it's just the angle of the photograph or something?"

And when I asked for other pictures, I OBVIOUSLY wasn't doubting that he was there, I wanted to see if maybe there were other pictures showing him in street clothes and a 'cowboy' hat sort of thing, but what you posted was a pic of him in uniform, as he seemingly always was when at the field, and you can't see enough of his face to compare it to the chubby white gentleman in the first picture.

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In the photo of John McGraw from 1920, when sitting he looks fatter, if he were standing up, he would look stretched out, now I show other photos of McGraw at Almendares Park in 1911, with the New York Giants, 9 years before , in one of the games there was a big discussion when they were losing the game, and offended Almendares catcher Gervasio González, at the end of the game the discussion continued with umpire Rigler in a restaurant and the police intervened and took him to jail, There are photos of what happened.
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That must be Earl Smith standing next to Ruth.
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Are you suggesting John McGraw is the guy in the front row at far right? Not much of a resemblance there, but maybe it's just the angle of the photograph or something?
I am also doubtful that McGraw is in the photo. Johnny Evers, who was a coach for the Giants at that time, is second from right in the bottom row. The biography of Evers titled "Johnny Evers - A Baseball Life" states:

After the season, Evers agreed to take a team consisting mostly of Giants players to Cuba for a winter barnstorming trip.

According to New York newspaper accounts in the fall of 1920, McGraw joined the team sometime after they had arrived and begun playing. The photo may have been taken before he got there.
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