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Default Spiro Agnew Letter

With all the corruption finally coming to light in Washington these days, it reminded me of the Watergate era. Before that story broke, though, Vice President Spiro Agnew had already resigned for other less-than-respectful reasons. My father had written him a letter of support shortly before his resignation and here is his relatively terse reply. The envelope has 'Office of the Vice President' on it, but the letter itself is just a plain piece of typing paper with no letterhead.

I know the White House uses/used the autopen like it was going out of style, but does anyone here have any knowledge regarding this Agnew signature?

I hope it's an actual signature, but either way, I find this to be a very interesting piece and a glimpse into what was going on in the early 70's.

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"Nattering Nabobs of Negativism"
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"Nattering Nabobs of Negativism"
The best quote in the history of humanity!!!!
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The signature is as phony as his affirmation of innocence.
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Now if anyone whose opinion I actually gave a crap about would like to chime in, that would be great.
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I am not familiar with his signature but it appears that the letter is a form letter and I would suspect does not contain a real signature.
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Now if anyone whose opinion I actually gave a crap about would like to chime in, that would be great.
I don't know whether you actualy give a crap about my opinion or not, but I can unequivocally state that is NOT an authentic Spiro Agnew signature.

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You"re very welcome, Darren.

(Keep at it. Eventually you'll learn to recognize a form letter.)

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The best quote in the history of humanity!!!!
Credit to Bill Safire, certainly not Agnew!
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Uh oh. Best not to criticize ol' Spiro, Jeff. Next thing ya know, Darren won't give a crap about your opinion, either.
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Darren - it appears that you and Jerry Lewis are having differences.
I suggest you use the above link and poof no more differences
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The only thing I remember him saying was "I am not a Crook"
Oh, wait that was his Boss. Who gave us the first President never to be voted into office. Because the vice president was removed from office.Then of course so was his boss
He said in his book n 1980, in which he implied that Nixon and his Chief of Staff, Alexander Haig, had planned to assassinate him if he refused to resign the Vice Presidency, and that Haig told him to "go quietly…or else",

Bottom line, it is not authentic

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I suggest you use the above link and poof no more differences
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The only thing I remember him saying was "I am not a Crook"
Oh, wait that was his Boss. Who gave us the first President never to be voted into office. Because the vice president was removed from office.Then of course so was his boss
He said in his book n 1980, in which he implied that Nixon and his Chief of Staff, Alexander Haig, had planned to assassinate him if he refused to resign the Vice Presidency, and that Haig told him to "go quietly…or else",

Bottom line, it is not authentic
Haig was a scary guy who wanted to be King, not President, King.
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Kinda got away from you there, didn't it, Darren?
You didn't think that posting an Agnew piece would generate some criticism?

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The only thing I remember him saying was "I am not a Crook"
Oh, wait that was his Boss. Who gave us the first President never to be voted into office. Because the vice president was removed from office.Then of course so was his boss
He said in his book n 1980, in which he implied that Nixon and his Chief of Staff, Alexander Haig, had planned to assassinate him if he refused to resign the Vice Presidency, and that Haig told him to "go quietly…or else",

Bottom line, it is not authentic
I remembered that a little differently. I thought Nixon said he was never worried that anyone would assassinate him as long as Spiro was VP.
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Uh oh. Best not to criticize ol' Spiro, Jeff. Next thing ya know, Darren won't give a crap about your opinion, either.
Well in my case he would be right, I know very little about political autos or many for that matter.
But I am very certain that Safire penned that quote along with "pussilanious pussyfooters" IIRC.
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Now that I have time, I wanted to come back and show you why your signature is not authentic (and IMO this should be done anytime someone condemns a signature as long as they have time)

You can see from the image posted below that your letter has the same signature. That is because it has been mechanically reproduced, more than likely by an autopen. You might notice very, very, very slight differences in autopen signatures. That is normal and is typically caused by one of the following:

1. The signature matrix wears down with use causing minor differences
2 a human being loads the item to be signed and moves the item slightly during signing
3. An autopen can hold various writing implements so different implements have different tips, flow rates, etc

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Jeff, thought you would like this.
http://www.qotd.org/quotes/William.Safire
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I've always found Nixon exceedingly interesting. In fact, I've just begun re-reading Woodward and Bernstien's, "The Final Days." I would've have loved to pick up one of the balls addressed to Nixon in the REA auction.
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Poor, doucheb_g, David. He just can't stop writing my name in his posts. What a treasure of a human being. If only that 'ignore' button would physically work on him, that would be great.

Thank you, Mike (and the other folks, too), for helping me out. I appreciate it!!
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That "doucheb_g" was the first to tell you your autograph is not real.

Once again, you're welcome.

Asshole.

(And, as history has plainly shown, I'm correct about Spiro's "innocence," as well.)

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Oh, poor little Davy. I'm so sorry that I've upset such a well respected and beloved member of these boards. God, I'm going to puke.
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