At what level should I set my expectations

[Diamound]

What geographical location is this show? Hockey just ended their season which might lower interest. If you can get the average sell price, as mentioned above, you will do well avoiding fees.

[camaro69]

Originally Posted by Diamound

What geographical location is this show? Hockey just ended their season which might lower interest. If you can get the average sell price, as mentioned above, you will do well avoiding fees.

I live in Nova Scotia Canada. Regardless of what I get for the card it will never be on eBay unless the person that buys it from me puts it on.But yes those fees are a killer for sure.That is one thing a lot of people do not understand. They see that a card sold for a certain amount so theirs is worth that much. The seller has a lot of fees that come off that closing price. I did see that the last PSA7 sold for well over $400.00 on eBay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-68-TOP...oAAOSwxOJe6Gik

[Diamound]

Originally Posted by camaro69

I live in Nova Scotia Canada. Regardless of what I get for the card it will never be on eBay unless the person that buys it from me puts it on.But yes those fees are a killer for sure.That is one thing a lot of people do not understand. They see that a card sold for a certain amount so theirs is worth that much. The seller has a lot of fees that come off that closing price. I did see that the last PSA7 sold for well over $400.00 on eBay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-68-TOP...oAAOSwxOJe6Gik

List for equivalent to $500 US and go from there. You can feel out the interest as the day goes. Although it does depend on whether or not your friend would like a quick sale. You can list at $400 US and this will leave some meat on the bone for the buyer to resell. In turn motivating a buyer to purchase as you have listed at a discount.

[cardsagain74]

Some of you guys are way high on this.

People are terrified of the OC and MC qualifiers. 8 (OC) means that you'll be lucky to get the price of a 6. A 6 sold for 220 on ebay last night.

Plus, the PSA 7 from that link didn't actually sell for that price anyway. It was relisted, then taken down.

If he wants to sell it quickly, I'd be satisfied getting 200

[Oscar_Stanage]

Originally Posted by camaro69

I live in Nova Scotia Canada. Regardless of what I get for the card it will never be on eBay unless the person that buys it from me puts it on.But yes those fees are a killer for sure.That is one thing a lot of people do not understand. They see that a card sold for a certain amount so theirs is worth that much. The seller has a lot of fees that come off that closing price. I did see that the last PSA7 sold for well over $400.00 on eBay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-68-TOP...oAAOSwxOJe6Gik

Interesting, I don't know why VCP has the last sale at 7/31. Their data is usually up to date.

[Oscar_Stanage]

Originally Posted by camaro69

I live in Nova Scotia Canada. Regardless of what I get for the card it will never be on eBay unless the person that buys it from me puts it on.But yes those fees are a killer for sure.That is one thing a lot of people do not understand. They see that a card sold for a certain amount so theirs is worth that much. The seller has a lot of fees that come off that closing price. I did see that the last PSA7 sold for well over $400.00 on eBay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-68-TOP...oAAOSwxOJe6Gik

Out of curiosity, I spoke to VCP and Ebay. This item was not sold at the price. It was sold, but then the buyer canceled. This is why it is confusingly shown as "Sold" in the picture but in the banner says "This listing has ended. The seller has relisted this item or one like this."

this might be an honest mistake or part of a seller scam to show an inflated price. But $400+ was not exchanged for that card.

As an aside, I soften see sketchy things out of Ebay Canada and personally will never buy from a Canadian seller.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Wid_Conroy

Out of curiosity, I spoke to VCP and Ebay. This item was not sold at the price. It was sold, but then the buyer canceled. This is why it is confusingly shown as "Sold" in the picture but in the banner says "This listing has ended. The seller has relisted this item or one like this."

this might be an honest mistake or part of a seller scam to show an inflated price. But $400+ was not exchanged for that card.

As an aside, I soften see sketchy things out of Ebay Canada and personally will never buy from a Canadian seller.

LOL Yeah, because sketchy things don't happen from EBay U.S. or from U.S. sellers. I hope you're not serious?

Winston, for what it's worth, I paid just over $300 CDN for my 6 about 4-5 months ago. Personally, I'd take my 6 over that OC one anyday.
As John said, OC and other qualifiers deter people, me included.

[Oscar_Stanage]

Originally Posted by irv

LOL Yeah, because sketchy things don't happen from EBay U.S. or from U.S. sellers. I hope you're not serious?

They absolutely do! But I basically use 2-3 US sellers and don't really need to look beyond them. However as a US buyer, I think cross-border transactions give scammers another layer of comfort to run their scams (whether US to Canada, Canada to US, US to UK, anywhere).

I am probably biased in that I am in the market for an OPC Gretzky rookie - and the number of counterfeits on EBAY coming from up North is staggering, lol

[camaro69]

Originally Posted by irv

LOL Yeah, because sketchy things don't happen from EBay U.S. or from U.S. sellers. I hope you're not serious?

Winston, for what it's worth, I paid just over $300 CDN for my 6 about 4-5 months ago. Personally, I'd take my 6 over that OC one anyday.
As John said, OC and other qualifiers deter people, me included.

I may end up buying the card for myself and resubmit it for grading requesting no qualifiers.In hand it is a beautiful card but top to bottom is off centre. Side to side is fine and so is the back. I have to ask. Why are people so obsessed with centering. For me as a collector if it is something that came from the factory then I can handle it. But if it something that someone has done since the card has been out and about then I have a problem. But there are a lot of people that would sooner have dinged corners then a card off centre. I guess I could never understand that.

[irv]

Originally Posted by camaro69

I may end up buying the card for myself and resubmit it for grading requesting no qualifiers.In hand it is a beautiful card but top to bottom is off centre. Side to side is fine and so is the back. I have to ask. Why are people so obsessed with centering. For me as a collector if it is something that came from the factory then I can handle it. But if it something that someone has done since the card has been out and about then I have a problem. But there are a lot of people that would sooner have dinged corners then a card off centre. I guess I could never understand that.

I use to think the same way. If it came from the factory like that then what's the problem? (look at a lot of my 52's in my link)
The truth of the matter is, if one can find a centered card then they are almost guaranteed to, when the time comes, sell it for a premium. Yes, they will buy it a premium but their chances of recouping or increasing their profits will be significantly increased as well.

Also, since some cards are notorious for being tough to find centered, if one finds one, then it becomes a more desirable/rarer copy. And, like I've now grown accustomed to, centered cards are much more appealing as well.

It is what it is. Many collectors have their quirks and the like but centering, as far as I know, is usually pretty high on most people's list.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Wid_Conroy

They absolutely do! But I basically use 2-3 US sellers and don't really need to look beyond them. However as a US buyer, I think cross-border transactions give scammers another layer of comfort to run their scams (whether US to Canada, Canada to US, US to UK, anywhere).

I am probably biased in that I am in the market for an OPC Gretzky rookie - and the number of counterfeits on EBAY coming from up North is staggering, lol

I agree with the first bold as I'm sure some take advantage of that like you say, but because you are specifically looking for an OPC copy, your odds of running into a shady character from Canada also increase 10 fold due to the fact the product you're after is OPC and not the American Topps.

Gretzky RC fakes have been around for years, and since this boom in prices, I am sure even more are now coming to the market as I'm sure Topps copies are as well stateside.