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Old 12-20-2016, 10:39 AM
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Default Help with 1985 Thom McAns

Looking to finish off the 1985 Thom McAn MSA disc set and straighten out the checklist. Anyone out there collect these ?

Question 1: What about the Brett disc. My opinion is that this disc does not exist since I have never seen one. Does anyone have one and can they share a pic of front and back ? What color is it ?

Question 2: Without the Brett there are 46 different players, but 8 of them come in two colors as follows:
Cedeno green & red
Cooper green & red
Cowens blue a& yellow
Hargrove green & red
Leonard blue & yellow
Valenzuela blue & yellow
Walker red & orange
Zahn red & orange

That means an extra 8 color variations for a total of 54 discs.
Are there any other two color pairs ?

Question 3:
What color are the following discs that I am missing in my set ?
Beniquez
Dejesus
Deleon
Langford
Ortiz

Thanks for any light you all can shed on this set.
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Old 12-20-2016, 11:39 AM
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DeLeon and Ortiz are both red. DeLeon is the first disc on the second row, Ortiz is the fourth disc on the third row. bobsbbcards has a full set of these (I know, shocking) so he will be able to tell you the colors of the other three.

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Beniques (spelled with an "s")-Yellow
DeJesus-Red
DeLeon-Red
Langford-Blue
Ortiz-Red
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Cal Ripken Jr. comes in both blue & yellow

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Old 12-23-2016, 11:43 PM
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I believe I found another color variation in the set. The OP's Ayala is definitely orange, and the Ayala in the lot pictured that sold on eBay in August 2013 sure looks red to me. It is the first disc in the first row.

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Old 12-29-2016, 11:56 AM
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Default 1985 Thom McAns

Thank all of you...that helps a lot.

1) I assume you all are agreeing that Brett does not exist...correct ??

2) Adding Ayala and Ripken as two color variations makes 10 two color variations. So 46 players and 10 two color variations ...Anyone disagree ?

3) Anyone have doubles of the ones I'm missing for sale or trade ??

4) Are the MSA Subways from the same year without the JOX on the back the same list of 46 layers ?? The catalogs do not seem to agree. ???
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Old 12-29-2016, 07:32 PM
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All I can say is that I have been looking for the Brett for at least 30 years and have never found one.
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MSA Subway discs were indeed issued that same year (although I can't confirm that checklist)
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MSA Subway discs were indeed issued that same year (although I can't confirm that checklist)
I believe the Subway discs were blank backed. I've had a few over the years but have never obtained or seen either of the two Dodgers (Valenzuela/Guerrero) that some checklists claim exist.
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Here's a previous thread I brought up on the same subject years ago:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...an#post1009287
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I believe the Subway discs were blank backed. I've had a few over the years but have never obtained or seen either of the two Dodgers (Valenzuela/Guerrero) that some checklists claim exist.
Yes, the Subway discs are blank backed...I have the same color versions of the Subway Ripken discs as the Thom McAn ones noted above.
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MSA Subway discs were indeed issued that same year (although I can't confirm that checklist)
Technically, these weren't even issued. They were found in a warehouse in the Baltimore area. I worked in an LCS that sold a lot of oddball in SCD and was contacted and bought some sets from the original seller. The LCS closed around April 1987 so I know it was before that. I believe we advertised them in SCD around then.
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I believe I found another color variation in the set. The OP's Ayala is definitely orange, and the Ayala in the lot pictured that sold on eBay in August 2013 sure looks red to me. It is the first disc in the first row.
After nearly three years I believe it can be confirmed that the 1985 Thom McAn Benny Ayala can be found in two different colors, orange (gold?) and red. A seller currently has all of the Latin players from the set on eBay, and his Ayala is clearly red. Unfortunately his price is a little too steep for me . I left the Concepcion in the scan to contrast the red Ayala and show it is the same color as the orange (gold?) Ayala. ETA, the seller is correct about describing these as a Puerto Rico set as all ten players are from Puerto Rico.
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does the carew come in 2 colors ?
I recently submitted a Carew and got the PSA 9 POp 1
Does it come in 2 colors ?
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does the carew come in 2 colors ?
I recently submitted a Carew and got the PSA 9 POp 1
Does it come in 2 colors ?
The Carew disc is only one color.
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