Another Probstein LOL

[ibuysportsephemera]

Ok, so what I don't get it is that if you shill bid and become the winning high bidder, eBay is charging you 10% fvf. That is an expensive game to play IMO. Am I missing something in this discussion?

Jeff

[t206fix]

Originally Posted by ibuysportsephemera

Ok, so what I don't get it is that if you shill bid and become the winning high bidder, eBay is charging you 10% fvf. That is an expensive game to play IMO. Am I missing something in this discussion?

Jeff

I think that you are allowed to cancel a transaction. The cancelation doesn't show up in any VCP/Cardtarget data, but the buyer/seller discreetly say that the transaction is null and everyone gets back their fees. Wait a few months, and try and sell it again. That's what so concerning about these cards popping up over and over again by the same seller. If I am a consigner, and I sell a card for someone, then I should know it is gone. If the consigner then brings the card back to me to sell again, then I know a. that something is up with the consigner and he's shilling his auctions or b. I'm canceling the transaction and listing at a future date.

That's the great thing about this board and how every little discrepancy is pointed out. Keep these threads coming! Like others have said here, I had no clue that these things were happening until I read it on here. I've purchased items from these guys in the past, and I wonder how many times I've been shilled!!! No more...

[ctownboy]

As a person who has had a recent health scare (and who might not be out of the woods yet), I have a REAL problem with people who shill their own auctions, people who allow it to happen and people who condone such actions.

For those who are defending the people who do these actions, you might not care NOW. However, if you have overpaid for items you have won in auctions (because of shenanigans) and at a later date have to sell them and find that the prices you are selling for are less (maybe even considerably less) then I think you WILL care that you were shilled on those items when you bought them.

If you don't, then your family members or heirs (or whomever is selling the items) certainly will especially if they know how much the items were purchased for and how much they are expecting (hoping) to receive when selling them.....

David