Who bought all the T206 rare backs on eBay??

[Rhotchkiss]

Anyone notice that in a matter of 2-3 days all of the broafleafs, Carolina brights, graded Lenox etc have been purchased on eBay? Someone trying to corner the market on graded rare-back commons?

[ty_cobb]

maybe you can reference which ebay auctions? Unless there is a 1 of 1 , or something unique about it , I'm unsure why anyone would bother with the inflated ebay prices that abound. No offence to anyones auctions , but a Lenox Tinker isnt worth a b.i.n. of $3500 , and too me , in general, theres no need to rush into purchases based on back rarity hype.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by ty_cobb

maybe you can reference which ebay auctions? Unless there is a 1 of 1 , or something unique about it , I'm unsure why anyone would bother with the inflated ebay prices that abound. No offence to anyones auctions , but a Lenox Tinker isnt worth a b.i.n. of $3500 , and too me , in general, theres no need to rush into purchases based on back rarity hype.

+1....And with David Hall out of the picture, T206 backs have come back down to Earth somewhat....

[Rhotchkiss]

Thank Scot, I figured most were purchased by same buyer. Just seems odd that someone decided to take down in a single shot all the rarer back commons, especially considering they had been sitting out there on eBay for months.

Kevin, I notice that a new generation of David Halls may be out there. As you know, I am a fairly recent buyer of rare backs, and higher end HOF if that. And recently I was outbid on both cy young bare hand OM 6 and a red Cobb CB (with bad paper loss on back), and I had some mighty bids in. Add this random rare back, common grab, and prices realized this spring on other rare backs (see Cobb AB on eBay a month ago), and it seems rare backs may be back and rising.

[ty_cobb]

yes, there was a Cobb CB that went for over 5.8K in early March. I dont feel its worth that, It was low grade. what I saw from the bid history was 2-3 determined bidders have a good go at it. spread from the guy who mantled over it was 4k+ , and the other guy was determined to see where the max was,,, ebay 401284760584

[Rich Falvo]

They didn't grab the Brown Old Mill of Ross Helm for $33K yet. (BTW - I find it funny that you'd still have to add the $2.67 shipping on that one)

[sreader3]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

+1....And with David Hall out of the picture, T206 backs have come back down to Earth somewhat....

I don't know Kevin.

These are very interesting sales data points to me -- and all in the last week.

$4400 Broad Leaf 350 PSA 4
$4350 Broad Leaf 350 PSA 3.5
$4200 Black Lenox PSA 4
$2900 Broad Leaf 350 PSA 3
$2875 Carolina Brights SGC 5.5
$2250 Black Lenox SGC 3
$1700 Broad Leaf 350 PSA 2 MK
$1450 Red Hindu SGC 3

How can you be so sure this is not a new master set collector?

Mr. Hall started out this way.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by sreader3

I don't know Kevin.

These are very interesting sales data points to me -- and all in the last week.

$4400 Broad Leaf 350 PSA 4
$4350 Broad Leaf 350 PSA 3.5
$4200 Black Lenox PSA 4
$2900 Broad Leaf 350 PSA 3
$2875 Carolina Brights SGC 5.5
$2250 Black Lenox SGC 3
$1700 Broad Leaf 350 PSA 2 MK
$1450 Red Hindu SGC 3

How can you be so sure this is not a new master set collector?

Mr. Hall started out this way.

Interesting, wonder why nobody pulls the trigger on my BLeaf 350 Hofman for $875? Maybe I'm cursed....

[sreader3]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Interesting, wonder why nobody pulls the trigger on my BLeaf 350 Hofman for $875? Maybe I'm cursed....

I don't see it when I search ebay . . . . is it listed there?

If it's a Net54-only listing the new mystery buyer probably hasn't seen it because he doesn't know about Net54 yet. He's only got 125 ebay feedbacks . . . .

[tab]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Interesting, wonder why nobody pulls the trigger on my BLeaf 350 Hofman for $875? Maybe I'm cursed....

When buying a rare back I would prefer the entire back be present. After all you are only paying for the back. I hate paper loss in general. If I were limited on funds and had to buy a scarce back with paper loss I would rather have the paper loss on the front.

[MVSNYC]

Originally Posted by sreader3

I don't know Kevin.

These are very interesting sales data points to me -- and all in the last week.

$4400 Broad Leaf 350 PSA 4
$4350 Broad Leaf 350 PSA 3.5
$4200 Black Lenox PSA 4
$2900 Broad Leaf 350 PSA 3
$2875 Carolina Brights SGC 5.5
$2250 Black Lenox SGC 3
$1700 Broad Leaf 350 PSA 2 MK
$1450 Red Hindu SGC 3

How can you be so sure this is not a new master set collector?

Mr. Hall started out this way.

Some strong prices, for sure.

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

+1....And with David Hall out of the picture, T206 backs have come back down to Earth somewhat....

He has not stopped buying. What he did was scare the market and induced selling.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by PhillipAbbott79

He has not stopped buying. What he did was scare the market and induced selling.

Phillip- Where did you hear this if you dont mind me asking??

[ullmandds]

why would Hall stop collecting? is his set complete?

[Gradedcardman]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Phillip- Where did you hear this if you dont mind me asking??

+1 ??

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Phillip- Where did you hear this if you dont mind me asking??

He decided to sell his collection, but hasn't begun doing that in a 6 month time frame(rumor started around the time of the national last year) and no one can tell you who will sell it, or when, or anything other than the fact that he said he will.

Additionally, there have been rumblings from various people that have done deals with him for particular rare backed cards. More than one. I strongly suspect that was done to shake up the market. I could be wrong, but I am a gambling man. If I am correct, it would be a pretty smart move. If you thought everyone was taking advantage you when you purchase something, wouldn't you want to mix it up and bring prices down if you are buying?

[sreader3]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Anyone notice that in a matter of 2-3 days all of the broafleafs, Carolina brights, graded Lenox etc have been purchased on eBay? Someone trying to corner the market on graded rare-back commons?

Same buyer on many of the cards. Thanks for pointing this phenomenon out.

For those who don't know, you can find out accepted best offer prices at:

http://www.flippertools.com/tools/eb...tual-price.htm

[CMIZ5290]

Does it really matter? David Hall has put a significant hit on the back market due to his absence....The cards being talked about recently on Ebay might total what 10-15? Hall has thousands....

[mechanicalman]

Originally Posted by sreader3

Same buyer on many of the cards. Thanks for pointing this phenomenon out.

For those who don't know, you can find out accepted best offer prices at:

http://www.flippertools.com/tools/eb...tual-price.htm

Is there a way you can seethe buyer ID on a BIN?

[sreader3]

Originally Posted by mechanicalman

Is there a way you can seethe buyer ID on a BIN?

Not that I know of -- all you get is one letter e.g. ****k or ****s etc.