1921 Herpolsheimers graded w/o mark

[John1941]

This is the most surreal thread I've ever seen.

[G1911]

I will sue the archive if one of our lawyers will take my case and be my lawyer for a box of 1988 Donruss (unopened!) OR 1990 Score football* (also unopened!).

* A dealer told me all 1990 Score football cards are fake, so be aware these are factually not real cards.

[theshowandme]

8 pages on a Net54 thread is incredible

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Welcome to our world Brian…but I assure you it is far less entertaining for us.

Dipping out of the discussion (again)

Still haven't answered about post 240:

https://archive.org/details/LanstonM...e/n23/mode/2up

A typographical specimen booklet containing borders and ornaments for casting on the Lanston Monotype Composition Caster, Lanston Monotype Type-Caster, Lanston Monotype Giant Caster and Monotype-Thompson Type-Caster. This booklet is from a Lanston Monotype specimen book (binder) bearing the general title "Monotype Type Faces." It is undated, but based on internal evidence elsewhere in the binder it is from the late 1930s or early 1940s.

[Snapolit1]

It’s a great thread. I’ve enjoyed all of it. Brian is entitled to his opinion, regardless of how unsupported it strikes many folks. Surprised at the level of vitriol it has gotten out of some people. In the grand scale of things to be seriously irked about, this doesn’t move the needle.

There is a lot of group think on the board, where certain people speak and others fall in line like the high oracle of Delphi has spoken. Props for Brian holding his ground despite the groundswell against him. Man is entitled to his opinion as they say.

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

Still haven't answered about post 240:

https://archive.org/details/LanstonM...e/n23/mode/2up

A typographical specimen booklet containing borders and ornaments for casting on the Lanston Monotype Composition Caster, Lanston Monotype Type-Caster, Lanston Monotype Giant Caster and Monotype-Thompson Type-Caster. This booklet is from a Lanston Monotype specimen book (binder) bearing the general title "Monotype Type Faces." It is undated, but based on internal evidence elsewhere in the binder it is from the late 1930s or early 1940s.

This means nothing other than in the 1930-40’s those typographical specimens were known in the printing world It says nothing of whether they existed earlier or not. It proves nothing other than your 1970’s disco “theory” was stupid.

I have provided both concrete and circumstantial evidence based upon subject matter, teams, a full timeline of production where these cards all line up exactly right which would have been unknown to even the best fraudster.

You are grasping as straws and have nothing left. Every theory you have had has been debunked. You are simply being a clown at this point and half of me believes you are doing it on purpose to punk everyone (actually that is the most favorable reason I can think of what you are doing as the alternative is that you really are this thick headed)

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

It’s a great thread. I’ve enjoyed all of it. Brian is entitled to his opinion, regardless of how unsupported it strikes many folks. Surprised at the level of vitriol it has gotten out of some people. In the grand scale of things to be seriously irked about, this doesn’t move the needle.

There is a lot of group think on the board, where certain people speak and others fall in line like the high oracle of Delphi has spoken. Props for Brian holding his ground despite the groundswell against him. Man is entitled to his opinion as they say.

Nah! That is bull!

There are facts and there are non-facts. There aren’t two sides to this stupidity. Nobody should be condoning bullshit behavior and save the “there are always two sides to every story” card.

Brian is being either purposefully pigheaded or (worse) he really believes this stuff.

It may seem silly to you but wrong information shouldn’t be condoned or explained by people like you so save it.

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

This means nothing other than in the 1930-40’s those typographical specimens were known in the printing world It says nothing of whether they existed earlier or not. It proves nothing other than your 1970’s disco “theory” was stupid.

I have provided both concrete and circumstantial evidence based upon subject matter, teams, a full timeline of production where these cards all line up exactly right which would have been unknown to even the best fraudster.

You are grasping as straws and have nothing left. Every theory you have had has been debunked. You are simply being a clown at this point and half of me believes you are doing it on purpose to punk everyone (actually that is the most favorable reason I can think of what you are doing as the alternative is that you really are this thick headed)

I respectfully disagree.

A fraudster with knowledge would have a ball with the fraudulent Herpolsheimer set.

The dealer said the cards were made in the 1970's which means he knew about their creation. Can't get around it. They reminded me of a disco dance floor which I agree disco was moronic. LOL!

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

It’s a great thread. I’ve enjoyed all of it. Brian is entitled to his opinion, regardless of how unsupported it strikes many folks. Surprised at the level of vitriol it has gotten out of some people. In the grand scale of things to be seriously irked about, this doesn’t move the needle.

There is a lot of group think on the board, where certain people speak and others fall in line like the high oracle of Delphi has spoken. Props for Brian holding his ground despite the groundswell against him. Man is entitled to his opinion as they say.

He’s not speaking truth against conceited elites; he’s lying and making shit up that directly contradicts the evidence. Hobby experts are often wrong, but that’s not what is happening here.

Follow evidence, not people.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Tom S.

We won't entertain that notion. However, whilst everyone has been debating the veracity of the 1921 Herpolshimers, we have acquired several cards off our World's Toughest Want List.

I literally laughed out loud when reading this. You captured their essence perfectly.

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

I respectfully disagree.

A fraudster with knowledge would have a ball with the fraudulent Herpolsheimer set.

The dealer said the cards were made in the 1970's which means he knew about their creation. Can't get around it. They reminded me of a disco dance floor which I agree disco was moronic. LOL!

Or…

He had no idea what the hell he was talking about and just threw that out there.

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

It’s a great thread. I’ve enjoyed all of it. Brian is entitled to his opinion, regardless of how unsupported it strikes many folks. Surprised at the level of vitriol it has gotten out of some people. In the grand scale of things to be seriously irked about, this doesn’t move the needle.

There is a lot of group think on the board, where certain people speak and others fall in line like the high oracle of Delphi has spoken. Props for Brian holding his ground despite the groundswell against him. Man is entitled to his opinion as they say.

Steve,

Thank you.

I just let the vitriol slide and not participate in it.

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Or…

He had no idea what the hell he was talking about and just threw that out there.

Rhett,

If you talked to the guy he knew. That is what has stayed with me for over 24 years.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Nah! That is bull!

There are facts and there are non-facts. There aren’t two sides to this stupidity. Nobody should be condoning bullshit behavior and save the “there are always two sides to every story” card.

Brian is being either purposefully pigheaded or (worse) he really believes this stuff.

It may seem silly to you but wrong information shouldn’t be condoned or explained by people like you so save it.

This thread is starting to remind me a lot of the covid thread. One guy being extremely interesting and others trying to bring some reality into the thread.

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by G1911

He’s not speaking truth against conceited elites; he’s lying and making shit up that directly contradicts the evidence. Hobby experts are often wrong, but that’s not what is happening here.

Follow evidence, not people.

LOL!

Oh, this is the best one yet. Ask any board member if I have ever-repeat ever-made something up.

Still, it's a free board. Let's hear your accusation WITHOUT PROFANITY.

The only time in over three hundred posts on this thread have raised my voice because there is a chance children could be reading through this. Outside of that feel free to point anywhere in this thread where I have lost patience with anyone or any argument.

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by bnorth

This thread is starting to remind me a lot of the covid thread. One guy being extremely interesting and others trying to bring some reality into the thread.

Ben,

Oh, thank you for calling me "extremely interesting". Ego boost. Who needs "reality" in the thread when I had it first in May 1999. Yes, I'm pulling seniority.

LOL!

Happy Holidays.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

LOL!

Oh, this is the best one yet. Ask any board member if I have ever-repeat ever-made something up.

Still, it's a free board. Let's hear your accusation WITHOUT PROFANITY.

The only time in over three hundred posts on this thread have raised my voice because there is a chance children could be reading through this. Outside of that feel free to point anywhere in this thread where I have lost patience with anyone or any argument.

No one has accused you of losing patience with an argument. You are lying and sticking to debunked garbage. You keep stating, over and over, even after the original ads have been found and shown, that all and any card of this series is a fake. That is blatantly untrue and false. You are just lying at this point because you are too proud or too stupid to apply even basic common sense.

If you are offended by the word “shit,” the world is going to be a harsh place.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

Ben,

Oh, thank you for calling me "extremely interesting". Ego boost. Who needs "reality" in the thread when I had it first in May 1999. Yes, I'm pulling seniority.

LOL!

Happy Holidays.

No problem. Made my fair share of extremely interesting posts and even a extremely interesting thread or 2 in my short 10 years on here.

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by bnorth

No problem. Made my fair share of extremely interesting posts and even a extremely interesting thread or 2 in my short 10 years on here.

I know I have two to my credit.

[John1941]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

LOL!

Oh, this is the best one yet. Ask any board member if I have ever-repeat ever-made something up.

Still, it's a free board. Let's hear your accusation WITHOUT PROFANITY.

The only time in over three hundred posts on this thread have raised my voice because there is a chance children could be reading through this. Outside of that feel free to point anywhere in this thread where I have lost patience with anyone or any argument.

Somehow I doubt that any minors other than me will make it to page 8 of this thread.

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by John1941

Somehow I doubt that any minors other than me will make it to page 8 of this thread.

Thank you for keeping your statement profanity free.

[JollyElm]

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[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

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Thank you!