Value of W514 Strip Cards

[the-illini]

Originally Posted by Leon

Yeap

Page hits >>>> honesty. Good to know.

[Leon]

Stupid comments are also appreciated. Carry on...

btw, the latest email *just now, explaining what happened on the Secret Santa site.....below I asked if there is money owed somewhere?


Not that I know of.

The ONLY person/deal i have EVER had an issue with was Robinson on LTS.

The deal with that was this....
I put a post requesting, wanting to buy a "lot" of 1969 Topps Baseball.

Mr. Robinson wrote that he put some in the mail to me. When I asked how much he wanted for them, he stated to just look at them and send him what I thought was fair amount for them.
They came in the mail, My son sorted them, picking out the ones that we already had and could send back to him along with the money.
After going through them, i asked him what he was hoping to get for them. I was thinking maybe $150 for the lot of around 150, or $1 @. His quote was over $400.
No way could I do that. So i told him they were sorted, but I would go through and pick them out, as his were all "white back" with sharp corners.
So I did that, found all the white backs and sharp corners, and I sent them all back.
When he got them, he stated not all of them were there. I asked him which ones and he didnt know, just that some were missing. He then asked me to send my ENTIRE COLLECTION OF 1969 Topps BASEBALL to him, so he could go thru them and pick which ones were his!!!! Seriously, I was going to send someone my 3/4ths complete set of 1969?
So one of the mods called me personally on the phone. I told him that the simple solution of this was to simply have Mr. Robinson shoot me a price for what he thought were missing. I thought that was fair. I was paying for the cards he thought were missing, and offered $100 for them, even thou I was not convinced there were ANY cards missing.
I told the mod to let me know what Mr. Robinson said. Next morning I banned from LTS and now this.

On Monday, April 17, 2017 7:22 AM, leon luckey wrote:

Do you owe someone money as Steven is saying on the board?
LL

Originally Posted by the-illini

Page hits >>>> honesty. Good to know.

[the-illini]

Originally Posted by Leon

Stupid comments are also appreciated. Carry on...

Sorry. I just assumed your ad revenue was driven in part by page hits.

[Leon]

You assumed wrong.

If revenue was the reason for this site Viglink would still be on it, as it brought in a few bucks, and there would be a lot of other monetization going on. That being said, as you might remember, when I started moderating this site there was no monetization for almost 2 years...Every server penny or whatever cost was out of my pocket.
...I did/do it because I enjoy it. When I don't I will do something else. I made a lot more money at a previous job, for almost 2 decades running, than this. Pageviews make no money, btw....

As for the story at hand, let's take it to the end and see where it lands? Sounds fair, no?

Originally Posted by the-illini

Sorry. I just assumed your ad revenue was driven in part by page hits.

[drmondobueno]

Spell it out. Always seems to be a lot of talk about transparency which is really needed in this business err hobby.

If you are going to out someone, out them. Blow their ass out of the water.

[Leon]

I agree!!! Let's hear it...or maybe it's this...

Originally Posted by drmondobueno

Spell it out. Always seems to be a lot of talk about transparency which is really needed in this business err hobby.

If you are going to out someone, out them. Blow their ass out of the water.

[2dueces]

Originally Posted by Leon

I agree!!! Let's hear it...or maybe it's this...

Did you not get an PM from Kirk about this guy? Nothing secret about that? There was no gang mentality when he PMed you. The only gang mentality came when you decided, for whatever reason to let him back on. The reason he pays for everything in advance here is because no one knows him and should never trust him. He was invited to the "little secret board as you put it" because he was trusted. So people sent him cards in advance of payment and he betrayed that trust. He was giving many opportunities to make good on the deals and stopped all communication. As for his little made up story about Kirk. The only part that's true is he kept Kirks mint cards and send back a bunch of garbage and refused all efforts to make it good. So you need more details?

[Leon]

Got the details.
I just got off of the phone with Kirk. He says he doesn't want to do anything else about making the situation right with Wesley. So if someone doesn't want to help themselves, as he said he wasted too much time already, I am supposed to kick this guy off the board? I do believe Kirk got back some wrong cards and that was, allegedly, being addressed when Wes was banned? I offered help in working this out but was refused by Kirk.

Originally Posted by 2dueces

Did you not get an PM from Kirk about this guy? Nothing secret about that? There was no gang mentality when he PMed you. The only gang mentality came when you decided, for whatever reason to let him back on. The reason he pays for everything in advance here is because no one knows him and should never trust him. He was invited to the "little secret board as you put it" because he was trusted. So people sent him cards in advance of payment and he betrayed that trust. He was giving many opportunities to make good on the deals and stopped all communication. As for his little made up story about Kirk. The only part that's true is he kept Kirks mint cards and send back a bunch of garbage and refused all efforts to make it good. So you need more details?

[2dueces]

Originally Posted by Leon

Got the details.
I just got off of the phone with Kirk. He says he doesn't want to do anything else about making the situation right with Wesley. So if someone doesn't want to help themselves, as he said he wasted too much time already, I am supposed to kick this guy off the board? I do believe Kirk got back some wrong cards and that was, allegedly, being addressed when Wes was banned? I offered help in working this out but was refused by Kirk.

Your board, your rules. But remember my friend, I always came to your defense when others turned on you. Finding it tough to defend you on this one, but hey, he contributes.

[2dueces]

Wesley had posted that he and his son wanted to put a low grade 69 baseball set together so I sent him a pm and put a lot of 400 cards in average ex to ex+. I offered them to him for $125 bucks I think that was a good deal for him. I sent them to him about a month ago and he agreed to the amount and that he would need to send it in a couple of installments, which I agreed to. I haven't seen any money.

I'm still hopeful that maybe I'll see some money, but now doubting it now that I know more and I don't know how to contact him to remind him. Wish I had known more sooner as I'm out $125 and that was a good deal for what I sent. Just trying to be nice and I like seeing kids getting into card collecting. Its not a ton of money, but money is tight right now for me and was hoping to use that money to get something I'd like at the upcoming Boston/Wilmington show.

This from September 2016. So Kirk isn't the only one that Wesley screwed. So he lied again. More proof Leon?

[Leon]

Ok, it will be addressed. It's kind of hard to address general statements but specifics can be dealt with. BTW, is that GL? He might be my next call...

Originally Posted by 2dueces

Wesley had posted that he and his son wanted to put a low grade 69 baseball set together so I sent him a pm and put a lot of 400 cards in average ex to ex+. I offered them to him for $125 bucks I think that was a good deal for him. I sent them to him about a month ago and he agreed to the amount and that he would need to send it in a couple of installments, which I agreed to. I haven't seen any money.

I'm still hopeful that maybe I'll see some money, but now doubting it now that I know more and I don't know how to contact him to remind him. Wish I had known more sooner as I'm out $125 and that was a good deal for what I sent. Just trying to be nice and I like seeing kids getting into card collecting. Its not a ton of money, but money is tight right now for me and was hoping to use that money to get something I'd like at the upcoming Boston/Wilmington show.

This from September 2016. So Kirk isn't the only one that Wesley screwed. So he lied again. More proof Leon?

[drmondobueno]

Originally Posted by 2dueces

Wesley had posted that he and his son wanted to put a low grade 69 baseball set together so I sent him a pm and put a lot of 400 cards in average ex to ex+. I offered them to him for $125 bucks I think that was a good deal for him. I sent them to him about a month ago and he agreed to the amount and that he would need to send it in a couple of installments, which I agreed to. I haven't seen any money.

I'm still hopeful that maybe I'll see some money, but now doubting it now that I know more and I don't know how to contact him to remind him. Wish I had known more sooner as I'm out $125 and that was a good deal for what I sent. Just trying to be nice and I like seeing kids getting into card collecting. Its not a ton of money, but money is tight right now for me and was hoping to use that money to get something I'd like at the upcoming Boston/Wilmington show.

This from September 2016. So Kirk isn't the only one that Wesley screwed. So he lied again. More proof Leon?

Kudos for putting it out there. Appreciate you standing up.