NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-10-2010, 12:51 PM
Orions father Orions father is offline
David Bowden
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Yuma, AZ
Posts: 158
Default Flaking vs. paper loss

What is the difference between paper loss and flaking exactly? Does SGC consider them the same when grading? Reason I am asking is I got this beautiful N28 Ward in the mail and was amazed when I saw it in person. The only flaw is a small spot of flaking on the right border at shoulder level. Should I even try to crossover to SGC with a minimum of 40 or will flaking make it a 30 as with paper loss?
David

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-10-2010, 04:45 PM
Leon's Avatar
Leon Leon is offline
Leon
peasant/forum owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Dallas
Posts: 34,442
Default paper loss

Since flaking is basically small amounts of paper that is chipping away at the surface I do believe it is considered paper loss. SGC is tough on either....I have some beautiful cards with minute amounts of paper loss/chipping, in blank areas, that have been heavily downgraded due to it. regards
__________________
Leon Luckey
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-10-2010, 04:53 PM
HRBAKER's Avatar
HRBAKER HRBAKER is offline
Jeff
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 5,255
Default

SGC30 at best most likely. Anyway, you have a beautiful card there.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-10-2010, 04:58 PM
pete zouras's Avatar
pete zouras pete zouras is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Vienna, VA
Posts: 787
Default

This card is in an sgc 60 holder.

Photobucket
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-10-2010, 05:00 PM
Leon's Avatar
Leon Leon is offline
Leon
peasant/forum owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Dallas
Posts: 34,442
Default agreed

I forgot that part of the question (crossover?). If it were mine I would leave it in that holder if I was thinking of going to SGC.....HRBaker is correct....most likely a 30 at best. regards

ps...Pete- you caught them on a good day!! I never get that kind of grading....
__________________
Leon Luckey

Last edited by Leon; 07-10-2010 at 05:01 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-10-2010, 06:24 PM
jbsports33's Avatar
jbsports33 jbsports33 is offline
Jimmy
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: MA
Posts: 1,620
Default Flaking vs. paper loss

Any type of paper loss weather it seems to be a small amount as explained above or a even just scuffing it can be bad for the overall grade.

Jimmy
__________________
“Devoted to Bringing Quality Vintage Sports Cards and Memorabilia to the Hobby”
https://www.ebay.com/str/jbsportsauctions
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-10-2010, 08:45 PM
Orions father Orions father is offline
David Bowden
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Yuma, AZ
Posts: 158
Default

Thanks Jeff, I could not be happier with the card whatever the grade.
Pete, no offense, but that is one of the most misgraded N28's I have seen. Going off it, the Ward should get an easy 7.
Both company's are inconsistent on grading N28's. The SGC Malone has paper loss on the front but grades higher than 30. The Mulvey has a streak across the front and the Caruthers has some strange Alfalfa mark but it managed a 70. The PSA Malone is stained and it still recieves a 5?

Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
WTT: HUGE tradelist of T205, T206, T207 & E90-1 marcdelpercio Tobacco (T) cards, except T206 B/S/T 9 08-15-2009 10:43 AM
Whats the story on grading when there is paper loss? cobblove Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 22 08-08-2009 03:50 PM
border chipping vs paper loss Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 7 05-06-2008 02:40 PM
paper loss Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 13 01-30-2006 02:09 AM
When does chipping stop and paper loss begin? Archive Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 6 08-14-2005 03:03 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:34 AM.


ebay GSB