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Old 01-10-2018, 09:50 PM
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That one was easy If a year does not define it, what does ?

What defines it for coins ?
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Old 01-11-2018, 02:14 PM
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When I was a kid ( 1990s) I was talking to a old time dealer. It was in Garfield NJ his name was Bob he had a mustache and was always smoking( yes in the card show ). I ask him what he thought and he said most people thought 1969 and back was vintage. He also told me that 1969 Topps WAS OVER PRODUCED. So I always just kept 1969 as the cut off for vintage. But I do agree that the 80s should be vintage in today’s world.
BTW -- The Garfield show is still going strong to this day.

I can picture Bob now --- yep in those days some people smoked IN the card show. Such a different world.

I probably saw you at some of those local Garfield shows when I would come up to visit

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Old 01-11-2018, 02:16 PM
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They are common players. I find it odd your cutoff. I always found 1964 and 1965 much easier than 1966 and 1967. 1968-73 seemed even more plentiful. By the time you get to 1974, you can buy nice sets under 200.00 and I don't ever see much appreciation.
The hi #'s are pretty easy on a relative basis in 1965 and yes 64 is much easier than 66 or 67 Short Prints.

70 and 72 Hi #'s are more popular than 68, 69 or 71.

But to me, a hidden scarcity in filling the 65 sets are the 284-370 series, those are always harder than the hi #'s in that year

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Old 01-11-2018, 05:09 PM
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I think in my own mind, I always considered something vintage that came out before I started actively collecting! Stupid? Yeah, probably. But that's the way a kid looks at things I guess. So anything before 1974 was "vintage" for me growing up.
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BTW -- The Garfield show is still going strong to this day.

I can picture Bob now --- yep in those days some people smoked IN the card show. Such a different world.

I probably saw you at some of those local Garfield shows when I would come up to visit

Rich
I go to the Garfield show occasionally, probably 4-6x a year. Still every other weekend. There used to be 2-3 shows just in North NJ every weekend (and each day of the weekend), now Garfield is pretty much alone. There are a couple over towards Edison too, and of course the White Plains show, a small NYC show and monthly LI shows. But that's pretty much it.

Part of me misses all the activity, but the other part likes that I can get the cards I couldn't afford then for less than they were 25-30 years ago.
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BTW -- The Garfield show is still going strong to this day.

I can picture Bob now --- yep in those days some people smoked IN the card show. Such a different world.

I probably saw you at some of those local Garfield shows when I would come up to visit

Rich
Lol I know it’s still my favorite show. We probably did at least cross paths as I always attend that show. There was two other bobs is I remember. One that was under the stairs . The other was bob with the big beard that sold packs and boxes. I the the beard retired and I see him there from time to time. He was my absolute favorite person to buy Packs from and probably still is.
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The term should absolutely change as the years progress. 50 years from now, will you not call 88 donruss vintage?

1991 Topps was the last year of the soft, pulpy paper stock. So at some point, I believe this will be the accepted cut off year.

As for right now, I consider 85 and back to be vintage. 86 and forward is modern to me because of the drops in set value.
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