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Old 01-18-2019, 10:24 AM
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Makes no sense? How else do you explain the disparity between the Red Cobb and the Green Cobb other than one looks nicer than the other? How else do you explain the disparity between action poses and portraits other than the portraits are nicer looking cards? Why does the E-90 Cy Young card sell for so much money? You don't think it has anything to do with the image on the card?

My point is that aesthetics could be playing a larger role in collecting today whereas rarity or types could have been the motivating force behind past sales. I don't care about rarity anymore. I want NICE cards. I'm sure I'm not alone.
I didn't know that the Green Cobb looked nicer than the Red Cobb. This is news to me.
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Old 01-18-2019, 10:37 AM
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I didn't know that the Green Cobb looked nicer than the Red Cobb. This is news to me.
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Old 01-18-2019, 12:06 PM
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Hey Pete! Great question. It's funny that you raise this question as a buddy and I were just having this conversation a couple of days ago.

Without piggybacking off of other people's ideas, all of which are valid and possible, and in all likelihood probable; let me offer another option.

Is it possible that the current mentality of the "shiny card collector" has seeped it's way into our universe? They don't collect sets. They don't buys packs of cards trying to fill binders. They don't trade commons, just because they need that one to finish off a team set. What do they do? They chase the lottery ticket. They are chasing some super refractor 1/1, written in gold ink. They buy a 5 card pack, for an outrageous amount of money, and don't care about 4/5 of the cards. They only want to know about "the hit".

Is it possible that in addition to every valid point that has been brought up thus far, that there is also an element of "lottery chasing" going on? How often do we see thread titled "What's the next Green Cobb?" or "What's the next Bond Bread?". I don't know, but I do believe, to a certain extent, that everyone wants the lottery ticket and they see this as a better/safer avenue than 6 good numbers.
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Old 01-18-2019, 01:06 PM
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The economy is doing really well, at least where I live. I decided to sell an old card I had in my drive way last week....I posted it online and sold it in about 30 minutes. Housing prices are very strong. Everybody who wants one has a job, and in most cases a good paying job.

When the economy was doing really crappy in about 2008-2010 everybody was selling off their collections it seemed. There were some that wanted to sell but wouldn't at the low prices everything was going for.

I don't know about any specific card, but it will circle back around. When it does a lot of people will see the value of their cards dropping and decide to cash out again.
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Hey Pete! Great question. It's funny that you raise this question as a buddy and I were just having this conversation a couple of days ago.

Without piggybacking off of other people's ideas, all of which are valid and possible, and in all likelihood probable; let me offer another option.

Is it possible that the current mentality of the "shiny card collector" has seeped it's way into our universe? They don't collect sets. They don't buys packs of cards trying to fill binders. They don't trade commons, just because they need that one to finish off a team set. What do they do? They chase the lottery ticket. They are chasing some super refractor 1/1, written in gold ink. They buy a 5 card pack, for an outrageous amount of money, and don't care about 4/5 of the cards. They only want to know about "the hit".

Is it possible that in addition to every valid point that has been brought up thus far, that there is also an element of "lottery chasing" going on? How often do we see thread titled "What's the next Green Cobb?" or "What's the next Bond Bread?". I don't know, but I do believe, to a certain extent, that everyone wants the lottery ticket and they see this as a better/safer avenue than 6 good numbers.
Absolutely...there is no doubt this type of activity going on. As you stated many people looking for the next big card hoarding up T206s and other poses of different sets.
I think this is also an essential driver of prices is the hoarding of poses probably brought on by people collecting runs in the first place.

One collector on this board has posted 50 or more T206 One collector on this board has posted 50 or more T206 cobbs of various poses for exampls.
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I didn't know that the Green Cobb looked nicer than the Red Cobb. This is news to me.
It don't and it isn't even close for me. The Red Cobb is by far the most beautiful card in the set to me.

Not a big pre-war guy but hope to someday own a beater Red Cobb. Are there any other sets with the same pose?
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It don't and it isn't even close for me. The Red Cobb is by far the most beautiful card in the set to me.

Not a big pre-war guy but hope to someday own a beater Red Cobb. Are there any other sets with the same pose?
M116, it's close anyhow.
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These cards were low and stagnant for years. I last collected T206 in 2005 and until 2015 I still pretty much knew the prices. They've gone up a ways but I think most of that really just made up for lack of consistent growth. I believe that some of the cards are still undervalued.

Beyond T206, i don't see how you go wrong with Ruth, Cobb, Young, WaJo, Matty, Gehrig and a few others from the great prewar sets. There are still good ones to be had at relatively low prices.

As for why a T206 portrait, well, look at them. They are beautiful little lithos. Even in lower grades

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It don't and it isn't even close for me. The Red Cobb is by far the most beautiful card in the set to me.

Not a big pre-war guy but hope to someday own a beater Red Cobb. Are there any other sets with the same pose?
I prefer the Red myself, although I regret selling my Green and am looking for one. To me, in fact, the Red Cobb could be THE classic baseball card, at least of ones generally available.
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Torn between Cobb Red and Bat off as my favorites. Green is a distant third to me.
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I've always preferred the Red Cobb over the other three as well. I never understood why the green was so much more expensive and why it's taking off like it is.
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