"To Out" or "Not to Out"

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

I personally don't like when someone outs an auction.

What bothers me the most is when a seller outs his own auction to beef up interest. If that's okay to do, then I will out all my auctions.

So you don't like when someone outs an auction, yet have a link on your posts to your eBay page. Mmmmm. Trying to process that.

[swarmee]

The major issue that has happened MANY times on this board and others, is that by outing an auction, you've now jeopardized the completion of an agreed to sale. That's why I asked years ago on the board, and the consensus was that you should wait 7 days to ask about a sale. That gives the buyer enough time to pay and the seller to deliver.
Many times, unscrupulous people (and yes, this board has their fair share or lurkers) will contact the seller and get them to cancel the sale in favor of a higher priced off-eBay deal.
Hell, it just happened in February on the 1951 Bowman Mantle PSA 4.5.

And advertising your eBay page is a ton different than saying "Hey guys, there is this awesome T206 on eBay ending tomorrow!" in a post on the front page.

If there's fraud, I get it. But don't just post an item asking if it's fraudulent just because the price is too good.

[Jim65]

I don't understand the concept of "outing" an auction, is it hidden where no one can see it?

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by swarmee

The major issue that has happened MANY times on this board and others, is that by outing an auction, you've now jeopardized the completion of an agreed to sale. That's why I asked years ago on the board, and the consensus was that you should wait 7 days to ask about a sale. That gives the buyer enough time to pay and the seller to deliver.
Many times, unscrupulous people (and yes, this board has their fair share or lurkers) will contact the seller and get them to cancel the sale in favor of a higher priced off-eBay deal.
Hell, it just happened in February on the 1951 Bowman Mantle PSA 4.5.

And advertising your eBay page is a ton different than saying "Hey guys, there is this awesome T206 on eBay ending tomorrow!" in a post on the front page.

If there's fraud, I get it. But don't just post an item asking if it's fraudulent just because the price is too good.

I have read a lot of good responses and I really like what you laid out there John.

[MVSNYC]

Originally Posted by swarmee

...And advertising your eBay page is a ton different than saying "Hey guys, there is this awesome T206 on eBay ending tomorrow!" in a post on the front page.

If there's fraud, I get it. But don't just post an item asking if it's fraudulent just because the price is too good.

This seems to best sum it up, most eloquently.

[Exhibitman]

I consider it a benefit of community when an expert in an issue raises concerns over an auction. I know many collectors who've been saved from making bad purchases by information provided on this forum and others by concerned collectors.

I think we also have to differentiate between eBay and auctions, and sales and auctions:

--I would never want to comment on an active sale from the BST here (except in cases of fraud) because it might mess up someone's deal. There is little that is more divisive in a collecting community than interfering with someone else's deal. Think of it like Guido the Killer Pimp in Risky Business: "In these trying economic times, never, ever f*** with another man's livelihood."

--I would prefer not to see comments on eBay offerings because so often things do fly under the radar there.

--For any regular auction house, I see no harm in mentioning a lot offered; we all get the same emails and catalogs and see the same stuff anyway.

Personally, I don't comment on pending auctions (except for fraud or marquee items that everyone is talking about); if there happens to be something I spot I'd rather not broadcast it or have it broadcast. One of my favorite items ever flew under the radar in a major auction and I show it off whenever I can:



But I have no criticism of whoever feels otherwise about commenting on a pending auction at an AH; it is just my preference.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I consider it a benefit of community when an expert in an issue raises concerns over an auction. I know many collectors who've been saved from making bad purchases by information provided on this forum and others by concerned collectors.

I think we also have to differentiate between eBay and auctions, and sales and auctions:

--I would never want to comment on an active sale from the BST here (except in cases of fraud) because it might mess up someone's deal. There is little that is more divisive in a collecting community than interfering with someone else's deal. Think of it like Guido the Killer Pimp in Risky Business: "In these trying economic times, never, ever f*** with another man's livelihood."

--I would prefer not to see comments on eBay offerings because so often things do fly under the radar there.

--For any regular auction house, I see no harm in mentioning a lot offered; we all get the same emails and catalogs and see the same stuff anyway.

Personally, I don't comment on pending auctions (except for fraud or marquee items that everyone is talking about); if there happens to be something I spot I'd rather not broadcast it or have it broadcast. One of my favorite items ever flew under the radar in a major auction and I show it off whenever I can:



But I have no criticism of whoever feels otherwise about commenting on a pending auction at an AH; it is just my preference.

WOW! That's some Ali/Clay piece!!!

[T205 GB]

Originally Posted by snapolit1

so you don't like when someone outs an auction, yet have a link on your posts to your ebay page. Mmmmm. Trying to process that.

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[Buythatcard]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

So you don't like when someone outs an auction, yet have a link on your posts to your eBay page. Mmmmm. Trying to process that.

When setting up your Net54 profile, there is a place to enter your home page url. So, every time you post something on the board, it will be displayed. Try to process that!