O/T -need a little regional help- Milwaukee Sausage

Archive · #1 09-20-2005, 11:22 AM

Posted By: leon

Hey Folks,
I know.....2 O/T's in one day....I will reprimand myself soon
I am trying to find out a little bit about a newer card than I would generally know about for a friend of mine. It is a Milwaukee Sausage card. Don't even know who the player is. I am told they are sort of like the HiGrade Sausage or Henry Sausage (which I still know nothing about). Has anyone ever seen these? Value? etc.......thanks much

Archive · #2 09-20-2005, 11:27 AM

Posted By: BlackSoxFan

I know a good bit about cards from the area (only b/c of the braves history there...) are you talking about a player card or a card of the actual sausage???? Like the one that runs the race......

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Archive · #3 09-20-2005, 11:46 AM

Posted By: leon

It would be a player card.....so whatcha know?

Archive · #4 09-20-2005, 12:03 PM

Posted By: BlackSoxFan

They're from 1963, and i think the ACC on them is f-180 (though i might not be right on that - i don't have the catalogue or anything so that is totally from memory). They depict Seattle Rainiers players and are FREAKIN HARD to find... I had one many years ago...don't know where it is.

Both Bob Reed and Charles Kapner will probably know what you're looking for...

ckapner@foxinternet.net
boreed@hotmail.com

Neither will remember me or know me, so no use mentioning my name, but they'll know a good bit about them... i don't know if that email still works or not...I'd try charles first...

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Archive · #5 09-20-2005, 01:22 PM

Posted By: Richard Lloyd

Leon.... I would like to BUY these...
Kindly call me on my cell
978 457 6780
I will also let go for trade the card with the printing on the back
you wanted
Dick

Archive · #6 09-20-2005, 01:26 PM

Posted By: dstudeba

I might also be interested in these, though I would step aside for Dick. Could you at least post a scan of one? Thanks.

Archive · #7 09-20-2005, 04:28 PM

Posted By: Tom Boblitt

thought this might be some off-colored joke thread.........

Archive · #8 09-20-2005, 05:02 PM

Posted By: WayneGrove

Leon, Beckett Vintage Sports Collectibles did a small article on these but I don't remember which issue and my copies are still packed away somewhere or I would have included a copy of the article. It is a Seattle regional issue put out by Milwaukee Sausage Company of Seattle in 1963 on the backs of of their packages very similar to the Peters Meats Minnesota Twins issue. BVSC gave the checklist (11 cards in the set) and values ($200 for NM & $80 for EX), however it is an extremely tough set and you know what that means when you are talking values - worth what someone is willing to pay. Had emails offering twice book for the one that was pictured. Hope this helps.

Archive · #9 09-20-2005, 05:27 PM

Posted By: BlackSoxFan

Lol, wish i had seen the article.... i haven't seen any for sale in a long time so i didn't comment on the price, i think that the market will dictate ... if that wasn't already obvious

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Archive · #10 09-20-2005, 05:34 PM

Posted By: Richard Lloyd

Just recieved the 2006 KRAUSE price guide tonight.... they book for 350 dollars at NM... they are a great meat card!!

Archive · #11 09-21-2005, 02:44 PM

Posted By: craig

i still have that dm bruins old homestead franks for you. email me.

thanks craig

Archive · #12 09-21-2005, 05:20 PM

Posted By: Adam J. Baxter

Hey Leon,
I'm definitely no expert when it comes to these, but I found the post interesting so I looked up a little info. (Nothing earth shattering)

1963 Milwaukee Sausage Seattle Rainiers

ACC: F180

11 cards known

Blue tinted with red and yellow

Checklist (From 2005 SCD Catalog, page 1514):

Hall
Harrell
Jernigan
McLeod
Mel Parnell (The only player of note in the set)
Singleton
Skeen
Smith
Smith
Spanswick
Spencer

Commons: 90 VG to 300 NM (from 2005 SCD)

Parnell: 105 VG to 350 NM (from 2005 SCD)

For starters Ted and Wayne areright about these being tough to find. I've seen a couple Henry Houses and Hygrades in my time, but I don't recall the last time I saw a Milwaukee Sausage. The only one I could find in any recent auction was the June 1997 REA auction catalog lot# 254. Of course this is ONLY accounting for REA. That lot featured Bill MacLeod VG/VG-EX along with two Henry Houses. The opening bid for that lot in '97 was $300. They're pretty tough and I'd think someone would be hard pressed to find a decent example on Ebay or anywhere else for much less than that nowadays. These are on a lot of PCL & Type collector's wantlists. Perhaps one of the board PCL experts will chime in with some info?

Archive · #13 09-21-2005, 05:24 PM

Posted By: Richard Lloyd

Thanks Craig.... Sorry, I was in Rome last week and cleaned out my notes and your phone number was in the pile..
Kindly email me your address and I will get the
1952 Globe printing card for you for the trade...
Best
Dick
978 457 6780 cell

Archive · #14 09-21-2005, 05:29 PM

Posted By: Adam J. Baxter

Henry House's and Hygrades look similer. They are both red and white and are approximately the same size with rounded corners. They are also both very difficult to find as well. I believe Mark Macrae wrote an article about HyGrades for VCBC. I can't recall which issue.

P.S.: A question for the PCL/Regional experts

1963 Milwaukee Sausage
1960 Henry House
1957 Hygrade Meats
1957 BAR-S Meats

Are these the only PCL Hot Dog/Meat issues or are there others?

Archive · #15 09-21-2005, 05:56 PM

Posted By: Richard Lloyd

You could add the 1949 Sunbeam/Pureta Sacramento cards..
There are 12 in the set and PURETA is a MEAT sponcer..

Archive · #16 09-21-2005, 06:01 PM

Posted By: Adam J. Baxter

Thanks Dick. I passed right over those in the big book. Are they as difficult as the other meat issues?

Archive · #17 09-21-2005, 06:29 PM

Posted By: Richard Lloyd

Yes... they are almost as impossible!!! I only need several more to complete the set but in 4 years I have only seen them 2 times on ebay... The PCL sellers of the world have NEDVER had any for sale....

Archive · #18 09-21-2005, 08:13 PM

Posted By: BlackSoxFan

My gosh, i actually feel kinda cool that i knew something and was actually correct too..i'm shocked by even myself sometimes.

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Archive · #19 09-21-2005, 10:27 PM

Posted By: Max Weder

Archive · #20 09-21-2005, 10:56 PM

Posted By: Adam J. Baxter

Back in 1995 REA auctioned off what was then the only known complete set of Milwaukee Sausages. 10 of the 11 cards were listed as being in NrMt to Nr/Mt-Mt condition with no stains on them of any kind. It was theorized then that these ten never made into the finished product, thus accounting for their pristine condition. The 11th card was Vg-Ex. The opening bid for that set (Lot # 773) was $2000. I don't know what the final price was, but I'd love to see what that set would go for now.

Well, that'll be enough of this Sausage Fest for me, I'm off to bed.

Archive · #21 09-22-2005, 06:21 AM

Posted By: Richard Lloyd

NICE card Max...
Is that your card??

Archive · #22 09-22-2005, 10:44 AM

Posted By: Thanks!

Sweet card Max, thanks for sharing. Just another one to add to my list.

Archive · #23 09-23-2005, 07:56 AM

Posted By: Max Weder

However, I am concerned about the skinless wieners offered.

Archive · #24 10-08-2005, 01:46 PM

Posted By: BlackSoxFan

Just thought you guys would like to see this:

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=52982&item=6565758557

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