Local John Stockton Mask Controversy

[irv]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe you should go debate it with one of the countless doctors (I know some myself) who have seen first hand in their hospitals and practices the much higher percentage of serious illness and death among the unvaccinated than among the vaccinated (and even more so the boosted). I am sure you know more than they do, after all they are just part of the lying machine, so it should be easy for you to prevail.

BTW I'm not advocating for mandates or lockdowns and I respect individuals' decisions not to get the shot. I'm just against the spread of garbage misinformation.

So, you're going to try and use that one again despite the articles I posted about all the doctor's, nurses and other medical professionals who refuse the vaccines because they know they are shit and don't work?

I assume, like I've witnessed from you before, what you post and state is the real truth because that is what you want to believe but whenever anyone else posts something of the opposite, because it goes against your believes, it is all fake news.

Tell me, Peter, why are so many hospitals currently understaffed and why are some hospitals now calling back those same nurses, doctors and other medical professionals they once fired?
Were they fired due to their lack of work ethic or something other?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/hundreds-h...ry?id=80303408
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/26/n...ccination.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...nded-1.6191433

Curious, how many of these doctors and nurses that you know decided willfully to take the vaccines rather than being forced/coerced to?
Think any of them decided it was worth the risk rather than lose their jobs, their pensions and everything else associate with that like possibly losing their homes and providing for their families?

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by irv

So, you're going to try and use that one again despite the articles I posted about all the doctor's, nurses and other medical professionals who refuse the vaccines because they know they are shit and don't work?

I assume, like I've witnessed from you before, what you post and state is the real truth because that is what you want to believe but whenever anyone else posts something of the opposite, because it goes against your believes, it is all fake news.

Tell me, Peter, why are so many hospitals currently understaffed and why are some hospitals now calling back those same nurses, doctors and other medical professionals they once fired?
Were they fired due to their lack of work ethic or something other?

https://abcnews.go.com/US/hundreds-h...ry?id=80303408
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/26/n...ccination.html
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...nded-1.6191433

Curious, how many of these doctors and nurses that you know decided willfully to take the vaccines rather than being forced/coerced to?
Think any of them decided it was worth the risk rather than lose their jobs, their pensions and everything else associate with that like possibly losing their homes and providing for their families?

Since you seem to have access to "real" news, can you please post actual numbers or percentages of doctors/nurses who have taken the vaccine vs. those who choose not to?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Since you seem to have access to "real" news, can you please post actual numbers or percentages of doctors/nurses who have taken the vaccine vs. those who choose not to?

To a closed loop thinker, it's irrelevant because by definition the ones who have taken them have been brainwashed or coerced. That's because it's a proven FACT they don't work, and the overwhelming data to the contrary is FAKE and the result of a conspiracy whose ultimate objective is to create a new world order. The closed loop/circular thinking works perfectly!!

[irv]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Since you seem to have access to "real" news, can you please post actual numbers or percentages of doctors/nurses who have taken the vaccine vs. those who choose not to?

Don't be silly, of course I can't, just like I can't find the numbers of those that died "WITH" covid and those that died "OF" covid.
For some odd reason, they have combined those 2 stats from the very beginning?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw9Ci2PZKZg

Like I said earlier, and maybe in the other thread, the truth is slowly trickling out but some still refuse to acknowledge that fact.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by irv

Don't be silly, of course I can't, just like I can't find the numbers of those that died "WITH" covid and those that died "OF" covid.
For some odd reason, they have combined those 2 stats from the very beginning?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw9Ci2PZKZg

Like I said earlier, and maybe in the other thread, the truth is slowly trickling out but some still refuse to acknowledge that fact.

Ok, but you are using certain articles as a hammer for your argument showing these doctors/nurses who refuse to get the vaccine. What percentage of the entire doctor/nurse population do you think that represents?

I agree that the "truth" is slowly trickling out. Unlike you, I assume, I feel that that truth is because we have been dealing with the unknown and are trying to use past experience to guide us in the best possible manner (ex: masks), and we are adjusting as we go. You appear to be saying that the truth is this is some vast conspiracy meant to make us sheep, or however you want to put it.

How do you know the "truth" isn't that vaccines aren't the best possible roadblock we have against this runaway virus, even if it's obviously imperfect?
OR, do you feel we'd have more or less deaths actually tied to covid (following whatever data put out by whatever media/gov't agency you choose to follow) if there were no vaccine at all?