1968 Topps Milton Bradley help

[G1911]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

So, is it true as I've read that the 1968 design MB cards were really not made or at least issued until 1969? If so how solid is the evidence on that? Has anyone ever tried to claim that the MB Koosman / Ryan is not a RC because it was not issued in '68?

That could get interesting. I'm guessing I would side with those that say yes, come on it's a variation of the same card. It is period correct and produced in the same manner as the real '68 Topps set, even if it was done somewhat later.

I have always assumed that the MB's are a 1968 issue. If they were a 1969 issue, I would think the 33 football cards in the set would not be 1967 Topps cards, but would then have used 3 rows from the 1968 footballs. The selection of 1967 footballs + first 2 series of 1968 baseball selection (and the 22 1968 Hot Rods) seem to strongly suggest a 1968 printing. I'd be interested if there's anything to indicate this assumption based on the checklist has been wrongful.

[ALR-bishop]

John—See Carlton Miller's article linked in post 12. I do not think anyone knows more about the MB set than he does

[Exhibitman]

I bought a lot of random FB cards recently and got my first MB, a Ben Davidson. Speckles of a baseball card at the bottom.

[G1911]

I have most of the 132 card set, but I’m missing a majority of the hot rods still. While all cards were printed in equal number (except the Marichal checklist), few bother to list the cars online. They have proven difficult for me to find, while the baseball and football are pretty common to find. The MB versions of the footballs are a significant chunk of those cards total populations, the AFL print runs were so much lower than MLB.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by G1911

I have most of the 132 card set, but I’m missing a majority of the hot rods still. While all cards were printed in equal number (except the Marichal checklist), few bother to list the cars online. They have proven difficult for me to find, while the baseball and football are pretty common to find. The MB versions of the footballs are a significant chunk of those cards total populations, the AFL print runs were so much lower than MLB.

Based on the sheet Carlton and Joe put together(seen above), both Marichal checklists appear on the sheet, thus there would be an equal number of these two checklist cards.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by savedfrommyspokes

Based on the sheet Carlton and Joe put together(seen above), both Marichal checklists appear on the sheet, thus there would be an equal number of these two checklist cards.

Correct, one has fine mesh and one has wide mesh.

[ALR-bishop]

So, are DPs with differences variations or just two versions of a card ?

Are all of the 68 baseball MB cards variations, or just a second set or separate subset of the 68 Topps set ?

[horzverti]

Originally Posted by G1911

I have always assumed that the MB's are a 1968 issue. If they were a 1969 issue, I would think the 33 football cards in the set would not be 1967 Topps cards, but would then have used 3 rows from the 1968 footballs. The selection of 1967 footballs + first 2 series of 1968 baseball selection (and the 22 1968 Hot Rods) seem to strongly suggest a 1968 printing. I'd be interested if there's anything to indicate this assumption based on the checklist has been wrongful.

The MB Win-A-Card game was first marketed toward the end of 1968, during the Christmas shopping season. This explains the use of the most recently produced BB cards, the 1968s. I would guess that 1968 FB cards were on store shelves during this period, so I am not sure why they chose to include 1967 FB cards and not the more current 1968s. I can only assume that Topps made this decision to not potentially interfere with sales of their 1968 FB cards.