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Old 05-27-2018, 02:30 PM
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Their auctions are intended for people with more money than brains.
I am one of them (however I have relatively little money to begin with) but we still shouldn't be defrauded. Let us blow our money legally, for goodness sake.
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Old 05-27-2018, 04:47 PM
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In an era of ballooning budget deficits, national debt, IRS funding cuts, and state budget shortfalls, I would much rather the FBI and other LE agencies not devote any valuable resources to this memorabilia circus. I'd much rather they focus on real crimes like drug cartels, human trafficking, child abuse and exploitation, murder, etc.

I think people have the ability to think for themselves and police the industry themselves. No one is forcing people to spend money on this stuff.
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Old 05-27-2018, 04:57 PM
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It's funny to us but these people are stealing from countless well-intentioned but nave collectors and others. I wonder how many thousands, at this point, of people are out there proudly displaying these phony items, gifting them to beloved grandkids, etc. It is just sad.
I saw a few weeks ago Cap Anson and Joe Jackson signed baseballs selling on that site for a couple of hundred bucks.

If an item sells for 0.001% of it's true value, can you really with a straight face call it a forgery?

That would be like if you bid and win a Ferrari online for $1,000 and then when it arrives, it's actually a kit car Fiero with no engine. Imagine how ridiculous it would be if you sue because you expected a "real" Ferrari for $1,000 and now you're a "victim" of fraud.

People would laugh at you, not feel bad for you.
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Their auctions are intended for people with more money than brains.
True. Coach's corner is a joke. I think people buy those autographs as gag gifts.

If you Google CCA, you'll find literally hundreds of links warning you to avoid their fake autographs. Anyone that falls for it at this point is really dumb.

The only thing I worry about is the elderly and people with dementia and Alzheimer's who may be manic and delusional with their retirement savings.
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True. Coach's corner is a joke. I think people buy those autographs as gag gifts.

If you Google CCA, you'll find literally hundreds of links warning you to avoid their fake autographs. Anyone that falls for it at this point is really dumb.

The only thing I worry about is the elderly and people with dementia and Alzheimer's who may be manic and delusional with their retirement savings.
People buy that crap because they are either scammers who flip that garbage locally, or simply delusional autograph collectors who brag about their autographed Babe Ruth baseball that they purchased for $86.00.
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Someday you might get scammed and change your mind. There have been some really good frauds and not just the easier ones to pick off. I guess you were ok if Mastro ripped you off too? BTW, please put your full name next to your posts per the rules.

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In an era of ballooning budget deficits, national debt, IRS funding cuts, and state budget shortfalls, I would much rather the FBI and other LE agencies not devote any valuable resources to this memorabilia circus. I'd much rather they focus on real crimes like drug cartels, human trafficking, child abuse and exploitation, murder, etc.

I think people have the ability to think for themselves and police the industry themselves. No one is forcing people to spend money on this stuff.
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Ed Doherty was President of the American Association from 1953 through 1960. This might be the earliest COA in existence, even though its not dated!
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My guess is that at this point in time, their auctions basically cater to crooked resellers. We have seen much of this crap on ebay and I have personally been offered a number of their items. I bet that if you did a survey of mall stores that sell autographs you would find a lot more of their stuff on display.
And btw - I had been told that Ed Plank always carried a sharpie with him .
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Every CC auction has the standard Babe Ruth, Christy Mathewson, Lou Gehrig "signed" bats, balls, photos, etc. I am always interested in seeing what "autographs" they are selling from non sports people.

This looks like a fine CC auction. In addition to the aforementioned Isaac Newton and Davey Crockett cuts, the auction is offering "autographs" from Paul Revere, Abraham Lincoln, John Adams, Robert E. Lee, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, Albert Einstein, Ernest Hemingway, Nikola Tesla, Jean Harlow, Harry Houdini, Amelia Earhart, Billy The Kid, Al Capone, Buffalo Bill, Geronimo, Saddam Hussein, Herman Melville, Janis Joplin, Charles Lindbergh, Gandhi, J. Edgar Hoover, Pope Pius XII, Quenn Elizabeth, Martin Luther King, Jr., John Dillinger, Charles Manson, Neil Armstrong, Princess Diana, Barack Obama and Donald Trump.

CC definitely went all out for this auction. I don't think I have ever seen some of those people in history "autograph" items in a CC auction.
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Old 05-28-2018, 06:43 PM
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Every CC auction has the standard Babe Ruth, Christy Mathewson, Lou Gehrig "signed" bats, balls, photos, etc. I am always interested in seeing what "autographs" they are selling from non sports people.

This looks like a fine CC auction. In addition to the aforementioned Isaac Newton and Dave Crockett cuts, the auction is offering "autographs" from Paul Revere, Abraham Lincoln, John Adams, Robert E. Lee, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, Albert Einstein, Ernest Hemingway, Nikola Tesla, Jean Harlow, Harry Houdini, Amelia Earhart, Billy The Kid, Al Capone, Buffalo Bill, Geronimo, Saddam Hussein, Herman Melville, Janis Joplin, Charles Lindbergh, Gandhi, J. Edgar Hoover, Pope Pius XII, Quenn Elizabeth, Martin Luther King, Jr., John Dillinger, Charles Manson, Neil Armstrong, Princess Diana, Barack Obama and Donald Trump.

CC definitely went all out for this auction. I don't think I have ever seen some of those people in history "autograph" items in a CC auction.
From what I understand, Scott Malack and Lee Trythall continue to conduct private signings with the aforementioned.
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