Question for you Nadja Caramel experts

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Posted By: Jim Clarke

Brought this card back from nationals and it has been dated by Mark Macrae between 1891-1896. What is the history of Nadja Caramel?

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Posted By: Scot Reader

Jim,
All I know is that Nadja was based in St. Louis and that somebody on this board was able to isolate their whereabouts and in an earlier thread provide a picture of their facility. Sorry for telling you what you probably already know.
Scot

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Posted By: Sean

here is my explanation



E104 cards are broken down into 3 different sets. All E104 cards are very hard to find. The empty spaces in the checklists indicates that a card is not known (at least to me) of that player/back combination. Even though 2 of the sets consists of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh players it should be noted that Nadja was a company based in St. Louis, Missouri.

Since ALL E104 cards are very hard to find it is difficult to easily say set 1, 2 or 3 is any harder to find. If you have any card not listed above please share it with your fellow collectors and send me a scan. I'd be glad to include it. Send to: petecld@earthlink.net

E104.1 - This set of 18 cards consists of all Philadelphia Athletics players. They are all portraits and can be found with a "World's Champions 1910" tag line written over their heads along with an elephant logo on the chest. Each player may exist with a blank back or with a back that has a Nadja Caramel ad.

These card would have been issued very late in the year 1910 or in 1911.

Since no cards have been found with the "World's Champions 1910" line AND a Nadja back it is a possibility that these cards with the tag line were only distributed in the Philadelphia area. Why would a St. Louis company make a special effort to advertise for the Philadelphia team? This could also explain why when E104s are found, they are found with a blank back, signaling that their distribution was wider. This is pure speculation.

Blank Backs
With tag line Blank Backs
Without tag line Nadja Back
With tag line Nadja Back
Without tag line
Baker, Athletics
Baker, Athletics



Barry, Athletics
Barry, Athletics



Bender, Athletics
Bender, Athletics



Collins, Athletics
Collins, Athletics



Davis, Athletics
Davis, Athletics



Dygert, Athletics
Dygert, Athletics

Dygert, Athletics

Hartsel, Athletics
Hartsel, Athletics

Hartsel, Athletics

Krause, Athletics
Krause, Athletics



Lapp, Athletics
Lapp, Athletics



Livingstone, Athletics
Livingstone, Athletics



Lord, Athletics
Lord, Athletics



Mack, Athletics
Mack, Athletics

Mack, Athletics

Morgan, Athletics
Morgan, Athletics

Morgan, Athletics

Murphy, Athletics
Murphy, Athletics



Oldring, Athletics
Oldring, Athletics



Plank, Athletics
Plank, Athletics

Plank, Athletics

Strunk, Athletics
Strunk, Athletics



Thomas, Athletics
Thomas, Athletics




E104.2 - This set of 11 cards consists of all Pittsburgh Pirates players from the 1909 season. They are all portraits and are the same poses used in the E90-2 American Caramels set. They can be found with backs that are blank or with a Nadja Caramels ad.

Blank Backs Nadja Back
Adams, Pittsburgh
Adams, Pittsburgh

Clarke, Pittsburgh


Gibson, Pittsburgh
Gibson, Pittsburgh

Hyatt, Pittsburgh
Hyatt, Pittsburgh

Leach, Pittsburgh


Leever, Pittsburgh


Maddox, Pittsburgh


Miller, Pittsburgh


Phillippi, Pittsburgh


Wagner, Pittsburgh
Wagner, Pittsburgh

Wilson, Pittsburgh
Wilson, Pittsburgh




E104.3 - So far, 31 cards are known in this set. As with the other E104 sets, they come with a black back or with a Nadja Caramels ad.

The Chase card is a discovery made in 2001 by collector Andy Cook
The Wiltse card is a discovery made in 2003 by myself at the Atlantic City National
The Devlin card is a 2004 discovery made by Dan McKee.
The Doolancard is a discovery brought to light by collector Andy Cook

Blank Backs Nadja Back
Abstein, St. Louis



Ames, New York

Bates, Philadelphia


Bransfield, Philadelphia
Bransfield, Philadelphia

Bridwell, New York
Brdiwell, New York


Chase, New York

Crandell, New York


Crawford, Detroit


Delahanty, Detroit


Devlin, New York

Doolan, Philadelphia

Doyle, New York


Grant, Philadelphia
Grant, Philadelphia

Jacklitsch, Philadelphia


Jennings, Detroit


Jones, D., Detroit



Jones, T., Detroit

Knabe, Philadelphia
Knabe, Philadelphia


McGraw, New York

McIntyre, Detroit


Moore, Philadelphia


Moran, Philadelphia


Moriarity, Detroit


Mullin, Detroit


Murray, Detroit


Nicholls, Cleveland


O' Leary, Detroit


Schlei, New York
Schlei, New York

Schmidt, Detroit


Seymore, Philadelphia
Seymore, Philadelphia


Sparks, Philadelphia

Summers, Detroit


Willetts, Detroit
Willetts, Detroit

Willis, Detroit


Wiltse, New York

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Posted By: vertigojumps

You gotta be kidding me!

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Posted By: jay behrens

Pete had not update his site in awhile, as evidenced by the lack of my e104-3s not being listed on the checklist.
Jay

Growing old is not optional, growing up is.

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Posted By: leon

This ain't gonna last long folks. No time to baby sit.

Jim- Nadja Caramels were put out by Blanke-Wenneker Candy Company of St.Louis. Here is a sort of missing link (I think) box that seals the deal. It is patented 1890.

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Posted By: joe

Who is Murray can't find this player ever playing for Detroit? Also, the only Willis I know of, played for Detroit in 1984.

Joe

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Posted By: barrysloate

Sean's post is the longest by inches we have ever had. It's longer than the dead sea scrolls. Sean, you really need to go with a decaffeinated coffee.

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Posted By: Bob Pomilla

Uh, why would Sean ask for info to be sent to Pete Calderon. And since when is Sean this articulate?

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Posted By: joe

Bob, you are right, I had to go back and check previous posts, because of the content and signon name

Joe

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Posted By: leon

I have emailed Sean privately twice today. My prediction of 2-3 days might not make it.....

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Posted By: Mike

Looks like summer school is working for Sean. As for everyone who thought he was an adult, looks like you might have been right about this one.

Oops, sorry. I just read the first few lines and didn't realize he had copied and inserted the content. My bad.

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Posted By: Josh K.

Who would have ever guessed that Sean is actually our resident caramel expert Pete C.

How clever Pete - you almost had me fooled but I recognized that write up the minute I read it.