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Old 03-20-2018, 12:14 PM
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That Gordon card was part of the Topps series though, this Ohtani is part of Heritage. He's not featured in 2018 Topps Series I.
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Old 03-20-2018, 12:47 PM
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How cool would it be to make a card with this logo -- Japanese for rookie card.

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That Gordon card was part of the Topps series though, this Ohtani is part of Heritage. He's not featured in 2018 Topps Series I.
The rules weren't just made for the flagship set, it is across the board. Topps is not supposed to make cards for players until they are on the 25-man roster.

I have already previously posted this, but Ohtani is in Topps Opening day #200 and Gypsy Queen #89.
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I have seen a few players with the RC designation in 2 straight years. I think I know what that occurs

The rule when implemented says card companies (now just Topps) could use the RC designation for current year issues when the player debuts before September 1 (when the rosters are expanded). You are. of course, allowed to use the RC designation in the following year. Judge made his debut late in 2016 but before the 9.1 cut-off and as such the card referenced is fine to have the RC Logo. From the Ebay description: "To my knowledge the only existing judge 2016 card with the RC logo. This card was only released to Yankees season ticket license holders and not many have surfaced." If this was not pack issued, I'm fine with the 2017 cards having the RC logo.

Sometimes, not enough people are paying attention -- so I get why that occurs as well. The market will sort out the wrong RC's just as they did in 1987 with Mark McGwire and the 1985 Olympic card (Now accepted as his true RC)

And yes, that is the reason for the cut-out Alex Gordon cards. Dead on to remember that.

If Ohtani does not make the majors, then this is truly on MLB Properties and MLBPA for approving something by assuming facts not in evidence.

I think what occurred in 2007 with Daisuke was safer, have the cards prepped and the minute the season begins and he's on the opening day roster, go for the release of the RC's

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He has cards from Japan dating back I believe to 2013. Why anyone would pay these prices for what is essentially a 6th year card of him is beyond me.
+1. So far, he's been way over-hyped IMHO. Let's see some actual production,

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When did the 1964 Topps set come out? Piniella's first rookie was in the set but he didn't make his debut until September of that year.
In those days -- Topps could make a card of anyone, anytime. They really did try to keep those cards to either current major leaguers or whom their scouts said were likely to be in the majors. Bot you could and did have cards of people who never made the majors. I like the use Archie Skeen from the 64 set as an example of the no major league experience.

Sometime around 1980 give or take, Topps began to only accept players on the 40-man roster to make cards of. The 1985 Olympic cards were an exception; however, Topps did not use any players who still had college eligibility left which is why there is no Barry Larkin for example in that set.
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It looks as if Ohtani had a fair outing and Scocia was pleased with what he saw. The expectation right now is that he will start the 3rd game of the season.
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It looks as if Ohtani had a fair outing and Scocia was pleased with what he saw. The expectation right now is that he will start the 3rd game of the season.
He was pretty bad if you read the account of the game. A lot of spin going on there.
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The thing is it's hard to tell what you're getting during spring training. Tanaka's ERA is over 7, but I expect him to be just fine.
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The thing is it's hard to tell what you're getting during spring training. Tanaka's ERA is over 7, but I expect him to be just fine.
Yes, but Tanaka is an established major leaguer and probably has just been working on stuff. Ohtani has to prove himself and probably has been pitching as best he can.
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