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Derek,
Not trying to sound cocky or arrogant, but I don't need a facial recognition guy. I've seen enough pictures of Paul Waner to know it's him. |
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OT and not a postcard:
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What team is this?
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Love that Des Moines with Cicotte RPPC. Wish I could find a postcard with him in Lincoln. I do have a 1907 cabinet photo of the Lincoln team with Cicotte though.
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Dan,
Most likely a team in Oklahoma which is where the Waners were from. |
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Is there any info on the back? Postmarked? AZO Stamp box?
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I'm not trying to be cocky or arrogant either, but could could post that face in higher res? I don't know whether it's him or not. |
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This is about a hi res as I can get: |
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The 1908 Reading Pretzels featuring Home Run Baker. He debuted with the Athletics in September of that year. Not an RPPC but meets the other criteria.
This is the circa 1915 Portland, Maine Duffs coached by HOFer Hugh Duffy whom I believe is in the front row at right. Not a pre-rookie image but what the heck. 1926 Toronto Maple Leafs with 23 year old Carl Hubbell in the front row, still a couple of years away from the Bigs. Another HOFer in the guise of Lionel Conacher is seen in the back row at left. He is in Halls of Fame for hockey, lacrosse and Canadian Football. Not an RPPC and no HOFers but I'm just itching to post it anyway. 1908 Richmond Colts featuring an essload of T210ers. Don't have this postcard in hand yet. Won it at auction the other night. The AH claimed matter of fact that the gent at the very left is Casey Stengel with the 1910 Western Dental School ball club (? !). I don't think there's any way that it's Stengel but I liked the card all the same. If I'm wrong then I'll be stoked. Probably what we have is an RPPC of a pre-rookie dentist.
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David, Duffy is the 3rd guy in from left middle row in that Portland postcard... Awesome image!
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Here are a few of Zach Wheat. Not sure of the years. One has him driving the wagon. I picked them all up together.
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Derek: Conacher wasn't mentioned in the description when I bought it but he popped out at me right away. People thought I was nuts when I paid big bucks but this post card is a winner in so many ways. You and a couple of other guys have expressed particular interest in it so there's a bit of a quandary down the line when the time comes to part ways with Mssrs. Hubbell and Conacher. I wish I could oblige all you guys that want my stuff.
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Kenny - what's that bottom one? Is Wheat in there with his sandlot crew (and a dog mascot)?
Here's a pre-rookie of Stan Covaleski with the 1909 Lancaster Red Roses Team:
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Got all 4 from his family. They thought he was in the picture but I have no idea which one could be him. I've got other pictures of his youth but they aren't postcards. Have his 3 month old baby pic and one yr old pic plus couple cabinet cards before he was in majors.
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David - that Toronto Team PC is insane! I have yet to see another, but that postcard is still very high on my want list.
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Richmond 1908 Team Card
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Any chance you’d consider any offers on the 1908 Richmond team card? As a lifelong Richmonder, it’s of great interest to me...If not, I understand and my compliments on an amazing piece. Regards, Brian (noelbrian55@gmail.com) |
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Leon, did you say Colonials?
Ty Cobb
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What is conclusive are the substantial facial feature differences. I know the scan you posted (below center) is not good, but it's good enough to see that your guy has a nice turned-up nose, while P. Waner had a big hook nose. And yes, the ear is way different. Your guy isn't him. Last edited by bmarlowe1; 08-10-2017 at 09:26 PM. Reason: mis-spelled Brian |
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You can't even see facial features in what you just posted. How do you explain the differences shown in my post?
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I look at the cheekbones and I have looked at hundreds of Paul Waner photos over the years. The young man in the photo is Paul Waner. I am sorry you disagree, but it is Paul Waner. |
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Relative cheekbone location can be used in a forensic facial comparison, but in none of the images under discussion can the cheekbone location be discerned. There is actually something in particular to look for and you surely don't know what it is.
Even if the cheekbones could be seen and seemed to match (which would not be uncommon even for different people), a gross mismatch in any other facial feature virtually disqualifies two images from depicting the same person. Assuming the bad scan as posted is true to the image as seen in hand, the ear mismatch alone immediately tells us this is not P. Waner. Same for the nose. You are just using your subjective (and very fallible for most people) facial recognition response plus a lot of wishful thinking. |
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Mark,
The nose is not upturned in the image of the young Paul Waner and the cheekbone structure matches between the picture and the Zee Nut rookie card. I am sorry, but it is Paul Waner. |
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