Missing Mantle Rookie at National

[lowpopper]

Originally Posted by btcarfagno

There do seem to be some print lines. The lights pole in the background.....from the far right of the lights between there and the bottom of the bat there seems to be some print marks. Could be like a fingerprint maybe? I'm not super familiar with this card but just hoping it could be the case for OP's sake.

I appreciate the idea but this is a picture I took of the card about
an hour before it “disappeared”.

A healthy reward is in order.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by lowpopper

I appreciate the idea but this is a picture I took of the card about
an hour before it “disappeared”.

A healthy reward is in order.

That freaking sucks Greg....seems like every year you hear stories of cards like these disappearing at the National. Horrible, horrible feeling.

[orly57]

I’m sure the thief will break it out of the holder and eventually send to grade. With that thick bottom border and the multiple print dots, I think it’s a card that would stick out to a grader if you notify psa and sgc to keep an eye out for you. I don’t know about psa, but I’m sure that Dave and the guys at SGC would look out for new 51 mantle submissions if you showed them a pic.

[Rookiemonster]

Sorry to hear about your card. I hope it finds it way home.

What ever happened to Rob Schneider's 1951 Willie Mays ? How does a card with such a high profile just disappear?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a30ca1a26f7f

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a30ca1a26f7f

...so absorbed in this story my coffee grew cold....wow ...just wow...

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[Buythatcard]

I just reread this entire thread and noticed one thing. Nobody thought about asking the person selling ice cream whether they saw anything.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Rookiemonster

Sorry to hear about your card. I hope it finds it way home.

What ever happened to Rob Schneider's 1951 Willie Mays ? How does a card with such a high profile just disappear?

Probably the same way a missing painting worth millions does. Its sold on the black market and sits in a private collection for years.

I had a similar scare last year with my 51 Mantle but luckily my story had a happy ending. Hopefully yours will have the same.

[1952boyntoncollector]

if there was an owner registry..someone would look up the Cert and see it belongs to someone else

the crook will have to crack it out and it can then be sold like a painting....................... of course the value would go down if sold with no holder or if re submit may get a lesser grade , however you would hope you can send a picture of the card to SGC and PSA and they can be on the lookout for any new submissions..

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by orly57

I’m sure the thief will break it out of the holder and eventually send to grade. With that thick bottom border and the multiple print dots, I think it’s a card that would stick out to a grader if you notify psa and sgc to keep an eye out for you. I don’t know about psa, but I’m sure that Dave and the guys at SGC would look out for new 51 mantle submissions if you showed them a pic.

Why take that chance? It's found money as a raw card.

[MikeGarcia]

Does Homeowners' Insurance offer coverage in an instance like this ? Property theft , just not physically in the home at the time ?

.. I'm sure they will want a police report , etc. etc.

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[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

Does Homeowners' Insurance offer coverage in an instance like this ? Property theft , just not physically in the home at the time ?

.. I'm sure they will want a police report , etc. etc.

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Most home insurance policies have small limits on collectibles. I'm not sure if collect insure would cover a loss outside of the home.

[Tennis13]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Most home insurance policies have small limits on collectibles. I'm not sure if collect insure would cover a loss outside of the home.

There were actually 2 booths of cellectibles insurance companies at The National. I thought it would be a cool business, if you could price it properly. I feel like it’s kinda adverse selection at its worst, though. I bet lots of people have things stolen or lost when the exonomy turns lower and have them insured at a higher value than market in those instances.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Most home insurance policies have small limits on collectibles. I'm not sure if collect insure would cover a loss outside of the home.

I would think not.

[orly57]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why take that chance? It's found money as a raw card.

Did you just ask why a guy who brazenly stole a 10k card from a dealer at a national card convention would “take that chance?” If criminals didn’t take chances, I would be a Literature Professor at the University of Miami. Either way, the logic applies: the card is pretty unique, and should be spotted by anyone who is aware that it was stolen. The fantastic left-to-right centering, coupled with the 95/5 (or so) top-to-bottom centering and multiple print dots are, as someone wrote, “a fingerprint.” It wouldn’t hurt to ask psa and sgc to keep an eye out.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by orly57

Did you just ask why a guy who brazenly stole a 10k card from a dealer at a national card convention would “take that chance?” If criminals didn’t take chances, I would be a Literature Professor at the University of Miami. Either way, the logic applies: the card is pretty unique, and should be spotted by anyone who is aware that it was stolen. The fantastic left-to-right centering, coupled with the 95/5 (or so) top-to-bottom centering and multiple print dots are, as someone wrote, “a fingerprint.” It wouldn’t hurt to ask psa and sgc to keep an eye out.

Just because a guy takes a chance when he robs the bank doesn't mean he's going to compound his chances of getting caught by trying to deposit the stack of bills at another bank. I don't think your logic is right, really. I hope he trips up and gets caught, of course, but I am not optimistic.

[orly57]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Just because a guy takes a chance when he robs the bank doesn't mean he's going to compound his chances of getting caught by trying to deposit the stack of bills at another bank. I don't think your logic is right, really. I hope he trips up and gets caught, of course, but I am not optimistic.

I was being tongue-in-cheek. Thought it was fairly obvious. I’ve seen dumber things in my career, but obviously, it doesn’t necessarily follow that they will couple one dumb act with another. The logic I was referring to was that the card is pretty unique, and anyone who is familiar with it, should pretty easily spot it due to its telltale markings and centering (or lack thereof).