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Old 01-17-2006, 09:03 AM
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Posted By: tbob

There was a thread a while back on this site and I pitched in with the fact that a couple of the cards looked like cards which I knew a couple of collectors here had purchased and unless they "flipped" them, this guy is using those scans for a scam. I am 99.9% sure this is a bogus site but man the prices are definitely right and I keep having to tell myself, "no, no, no."
I was wondering if anyone has ever purchased anything from this site and could they relate their stories, either good or bad...
http://www.top-sports-cards.com/web/baseball.html

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Old 01-17-2006, 09:15 AM
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It is a fraud it is Tony....about a year ago I came accross it and he runs a pretty good scam you order the cards and then supposedly ships the package and gives you a tracking number to verify it has left. Once that happens you are to wire transfer the money to his account in England. I never sent the money because it was to good to be true.

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Old 01-17-2006, 09:17 AM
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Posted By: Larry

The Brunners Bread Cobb was sold in the 9/2005 Andy Madec auction. Others look familiar to me as well.

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Old 01-17-2006, 09:24 AM
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Posted By: Wesley

Don't risk it Bob. That site is a fraud. Many of the scans of the prewar cards listed were stolen from BOTN's website a few years ago. I recognize at least a few cards that are currently in my safe deposit box so I know for certain that Tony does not have those.

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Old 01-17-2006, 09:27 AM
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I Agree... I saw his website a few weeks back as well. "Stay Clear"!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 01-17-2006, 09:29 AM
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Posted By: Paul

About a year ago, this person had a PSA graded Honus T206 listed on Yahoo! auctions, and a few other very high end cards. If I remember correctly, those cards had just sold from one of the major auction houses. What legitimate seller would do that?

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Their store sign has the words "Cards" and "Collectibles", as if the Italian words are "Cards and Collectibles". Laughably bad fraud, last seen them trying to auction on Beckett.com

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Where are all the European soccer stars?

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Old 01-17-2006, 11:48 AM
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Bob,
He's got a couple of cards that are now in my collection on there so I know it's a load of horse crap.

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Old 01-17-2006, 01:06 PM
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tbob- Beware....I own that e97 Keeler he has listed.

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Old 01-17-2006, 01:35 PM
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Domain Name.......... top-sports-cards.com
Creation Date........ 2005-03-28
Registration Date.... 2005-03-28
Expiry Date.......... 2008-03-28
Organisation Name.... Francis Gross
Organisation Address. 1225 Simms Heights Road
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Kingston Springs
Organisation Address. 37082
Organisation Address. TN
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Francis Gross
Admin Address........ 1225 Simms Heights Road
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Kingston Springs
Admin Address........ 37082
Admin Address........ TN
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... top_sports_cards@yahoo.com
Admin Phone.......... +1.6154441262
Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ YahooDomains TechContact
Tech Address......... 701 First Ave.
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... Sunnyvale
Tech Address......... 94089
Tech Address......... CA
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... domain.tech@YAHOO-INC.COM
Tech Phone........... +1.6198813096
Tech Fax.............
Name Server.......... yns1.yahoo.com
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According to Google, the 615 444 1262 phone number comes up as Tim's Truck Service in Smithville Tennessee. It's clear that Francis is being a bad boy.

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Old 01-17-2006, 02:37 PM
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Posted By: PC

If you search the admin. address for that site (1225 Simms Heights Road), you get this:

http://www.datcoinc.com/

Datco's motto: "We'll get your gluing on a roll".

A related pool liner site for Datco also comes up on the search for that address.

Hmmmm. I might call Datco and ask to speak to Francis.

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