Type Set Collecting

[gorrister]

Does anybody else here collect a type set? Here's a link to mine. It's not completely input yet, but I'm still working on the website. Comments welcome. http://www.stevestypeset.com

[David W]

Ambitious goal...... looks like fun, both cheap and easy to find cards, as well as expensive and difficult.

There are lots of type collectors out there, I'm not one of them (yet)....

[fkw]

nice list... just scanned the list quickly, some of the sets are listed a bit different than what I know them as but close. is this list an old list?? The strange one is why the Yellow R315's are listed as 1927 while the B&W ones are 1930?? Is there something different about them? also the R316 you have one listed as Paper? do you mean the "Made in USA" (Canadian) kind? there are a few other differences too... no biggy though

also just letting you know the 1947 Bond Bread DiMaggio is on the wrong line, it should be on the D305 rounded corner line. The D302 set is the JRoby set.

good luck, type collecting is fun and an easy way to learn a bit about every "type" of card made, and something that will never be boring, get stale, or "complete" ......some sets are only known with 1-2 examples known ie 1922 T231 Fan Cigarettes (2 card known), 1959 Esslinger Beer HR Derby (1 card known), 1941 DUnc Kroger Bread (1 card known), and quite a few others

[fkw]

I decided to make a list... Im sure the base of your list was originally made along time ago, as some of the info reminds me of what was known 30 years ago and things have changed on some sets...

these is just a few that you may want to update....

the set you have listed as 1910s D32 Drakes is really whats known as 1925 D32 Drakes "Film Stars" (Babe Ruth is the only baseball player in set)

the set you have listed as 1911 EUnc Base-Ball Bats was made by the Duché-Greaves Licorice Co.

the set you have listed as 1910 EUnc Orange Border is now known as 1910 EUnc "Orange Border" made by Geo. Davis Co.

I didnt see these cards listed... 1912 EUnc "J=K Candy" J. Koenigsberg Co. (there are 2 types, the smaller cards are B&W while the larger ones have a diecut head and an orange tint to the B&W image)

the set you have listed as 1907-10 W555, is really a candy set issued with a product called "Base Ball Snap Shots Candy" and made by Jay S. Meyer, Philadelphia PA. its still called W555 but really should be an E set. I call it 1908 but the book says 1909-10

the set you have listed as 1910s HUnc Herpolsheimer is prob just a 1916 M101-4/5 set... so you have it listed 2 times.. or maybe its the 1921 set that was discovered a few years ago (see below)

list is missing the 1921 HUnc Herpolsheimer cards (E121 style)

listed under 1910s this set is now known as 1916 FUnc Tango Brand Eggs L. FRANK & COMPANY

all of the M101-5 sets are now known to be from 1916, like the M101-4 sets

the cards you have listed as 1920 cartoon body is more well know as 1916-20 WUnc "Big Head" strip cards

the set you have listed as 1920s WUnc crude drawings is prob the set more well known as 1921 W9316

the set you have listed as 1920s FC59 Honey Boy is now known to be from 1927 and made by the Purity Ice Cream Co.

didnt see a listing for the set known as 1923 EUnc Fleer Candy Co. "Bobs & Fruit Hearts" made by the Frank H. Fleer Corporation (they are machine cut W515-1 cards with a printed ad on back, very rare)

the set you have listed as 1925 W504 is more well known as 1925 W504 Universal Toy and Novelty Co. and there are 4 teams known Dodgers, Giants, Yankees, and Senators

missing the 4 different 1926 W511 Ruth cards, red w/o #, #1 B&W, #55 blue, #71 blue

both 1927 W560 sets should be 1929 (proof is Hornsby is listed as "Cubs")

didnt see the 1928 W565 set listed

the set you have listed as 1930s W553 is more well known to be from 1929

W517 is from 1931, same with the smaller no number type (W517-2)

the 1934 R313-A is more well known as 1934 R313-A Gold Medal Foods "Wheaties" St.l NL and Detroit AL, and there is a very rare version of these Wheaties cards that have non StL and Det players, it is listed in the SCD as 1933-34 Wheaties (19 players checklisted but more exist)

the one you have as 1930s PCUnc WHIO is more well known as being from 1937 PC786 and is related to the 1937-39 Orcajo Red Postcards, there are 4 types, WHIO (1937), Val Decker Meat, Metropolitan Clothing, and no ad front with Orcajo on back. looks like you have the others correctly listed.

the set you have listed as 1934 WUnc Detroit Tigers is now known as 1934 HUnc Annis Furs Detroit Tigers

the set you have listed as 1935 WUnc Detroit Tigers is prob the 1935 Detroit Free Press Detroit Tigers set.

the R314 group is more well known w/o the letters now ie 1936 R314-1 (the common litho in USA kind), 1935 R314-2 (same as borderless, but w/borders), 1935 R314-3 (borderless), 1937 R314-4 (creamy Canadian, Doerr proves they are from 1937), R314-5 (rarest, group of 39 Montreal and Toronto players, along with 12* *maybe 13 Detroit Tigers)

the set you have listed as 1930s DUnc Sawyers Biscuit is more well known as 1938 DUnc Sawyer Biscuit Cubs/White Sox

you have each of the 3 1943-45 W732 set listed 2 times each.... with different names... the 3 Grand Studio Milwaukee Brewers sets are listed under W732 .... ie 1943 W732-1, 1944 W732-2, 1945 W732-3, there is only the 3 sets.

the set you have listed as 1950 V362 and the set below it as 1950 VUnc Big League Stars are the same set. more well known as 1950 V362 World Wide Gum Big League Stars

the 1952 VUnc Laval Dairy should really be 1952 FCUnc Laval Dairy Provincial League

[BleedinBlue]

Frank,

When I see lists like this I am once again reminded of how much there is that I still do not know.

Well done.

[ALR-bishop]

What resource if any do you use create your list ? The SCD Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards would seem to be a good resource if the goal is to get one card from every ( or most) issue.

[Leon]

I can't help as much with post-wwII, but a pretty good list, minus D351 and D355 (which I still need) and minus a few easy ones I just haven't got yet, can be found (with scans) here...

http://luckeycards.com/personal.html



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[tonyo]

Originally Posted by gorrister

Does anybody else here collect a type set? Here's a link to mine. It's not completely input yet, but I'm still working on the website. Comments welcome. http://www.stevestypeset.com

Cool website. If it were mine, I'd want to be able to sort the line items so I could put all the cards that have been "checked off" at the top. That was alot of scrolling required just to check out all the cards in your collection.

I didn't catch any errors...pretty amazing stuff Frank!

I started a pre-war type set a few months ago and am using those sets listed on oldcardboard.com as a go-by for now anyway.

edited to add: I suppose mine is - and will always be - more of a "type collection" than a "type set"

[gorrister]

Thank you Frank!! I've moved the DiMaggio to the correct line. And now I'm starting to work my way down the BIG list. Holy mackerel! I really appreciate the time you took to go through the entire list. Al - I found the list in the internet several years ago - saved myself a bunch of time not having to type everything in myself. Leon - I've been to your site many, many times, just haven't had the chance to work everything in yet. Tony - there is a drop down list at the top of the page that lets you choose between All & Have.

Thanks again everyone for looking at this.

[tonyo]

Originally Posted by gorrister

Tony - there is a drop down list at the top of the page that lets you choose between All & Have.

Thanks again everyone for looking at this.

Dooh! ...That's perfect.


Is the site something a mere computer mortal can do? Or is a "knack" or expertise required?

[gorrister]

I'm actually a computer programmer. I wrote the Simple Auction Site software that a bunch of the card auction houses use. The program I wrote for this one is fairly crude, but if you are interested in something similar, I might be able to whip you one up that is similar.

[fkw]

your list is great, especially using the ACC# (American Card Catalog Numbers) for many of the post 1950s cards too. some of those Ive never seen numbers for.


there are others differences that I didnt mention on my list I made earlier, some are minor things like narrowing down the year more accurately.

you have 1887 Buckner Gold coin as having rounded corners or square corners, Im sure the cards that are rounded are from wear.
There are some N284 cards that were hand cut from an ad poster and these will have a portion of a large letter or 2 from the black ink overprint that was printed on the poster.
the black ink can be partially erased (see image below)


the 1904 WG2 and WG3.... are now known to be from 1906

Ullman NY Giants "Art Frame Series" Postcards are more commonly known from 1906, yours is listed under 1907

1910s Parker Brothers game cards, are known to be from 1913 and there is only 1 player Napoleon Lajoie, but there are 2 different color cards, red or blue

the set you have listed as 1910s Brush Postcards, you have "Ty Cobb" in the notes section, there are est 10 different players in this set, so its not just Cobb, unless you want the most expensive one the cards show the player with the Brush automobile, rare cards
here is whats thought to be a complete set... http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...x?lotid=110895

1910s T214, is more well known to be from 1915
http://www.oldcardboard.com/t/t214/t...?cardsetID=712

1910 T3 should be from 1911

just saw that you have a set called 1910s WUnc. ornate border (2 listings), those are the same cards as the 1912 "J=K" sets I mentioned in last list, so you may want to remove the ornate border listings so they arent listed twice. .... the "ornate border" name was the old name before the complete box was discovered with the name of the manufacturer and product on the box. in reality the smaller cards are on 1 side of the candy box while the larger ones are on the other side and the diecut part is part of the endflap
you can see both types on my page here
http://centuryoldcards.com/1910/1912J-K.html

1910 WG4 is from 1914

1916 E135 (and the related sets) is now known to be from 1917 you have the 1917 D328 Weil set correctly listed, there are 5 total related sets (backs)
some are newly discovered such as the Merchants back... here is a list http://centuryoldcards.com/1910/1917E135.html

Im thinking the 2 sets you have listed as 1920s WUNC Playing Cards are these 2 sets here (both are very rare cards) http://centuryoldcards.com/1920/1925-29Playing.html

the 1926 Holland Ice Cream cards are now known to be from 1925 (they won the series in 1924). the 1926 date was changed a few years back...

1930 Uncle Jacks are from 1933

under 1947 W571, you have perforated listed 2 times, there is only 1 type (square), they have baseball/boxing players on one side, with actors or cowboys on the other side, they were made by Hess Shoes. here is a link (below) to info including the Exhibit size cards too. and the square corner 1947 D305 should say 1950's, they were thought to have been released a few years after the round corner bread cards (also many of them are fake too (reprints)
http://centuryoldcards.com/1940/1947HomBond.html

when I get a chance Im going to have to edit my pages as well, to add some of your ACC #s
Frank

[glenv]

The list looks like it came from the Old Baseball web site. David Hornish wrote a nice article on the background of the ACC along with posting a type card list. He admits to making numerous mistakes. The nice thing is you can download the list in Excel format, select everything, and quickly sort by year, name, ACC#, etc. Here's the link:

http://www.oldbaseball.com/refs/typecards.html

[gorrister]

Glen, I believe this list was my starting point.

[sflayank]

loads of mistakes and lots of exclusions post war

[gorrister]

Corrections are welcome and appreciated.

[gorrister]

Thanks Frank for the latest batch of updates. I've incorporated them in to my website. Anymore corrections are desired and very much appreciated!

[Exhibitman]

Wow. Blows my mind the info and knowledge here.

I tend to collect players as de facto type sets. My Lefty O'Doul and Al Rosen player collections provide a pretty good type card collection for their respective eras.

[Big Six]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Wow. Blows my mind the info and knowledge here.

I tend to collect players as de facto type sets. My Lefty O'Doul and Al Rosen player collections provide a pretty good type card collection for their respective eras.

Hey Exhibitman...you kind of inspired me to start grabbing Lefty O'Doul cards/memorabilia...do you have a master list you'd care to share? Thanks...

[ChiSoxFan]

Also, on the N284's ... there are three different backs (see link below)

http://www.obaks.com/vintagebaseballcards/n284.html

ChiSoxFan