Pre War Baseball card Printing Plate found

[olsport]

I am trying to find out from anyone on here if the original printing plates from baseball cards pre 1960 have ever been found or made available to purchase at auction. The reason I am asking is I found at the Chicago National about 10 years ago a curved zinc printing plate that had 8 small cards? baseball player images on them from 1932-36 era They were similiar to the 1934 (R310) butterfinger issue, with signatures, but small, like 1/2 the size of a T206.
I am very curious if ANY pre war card printing plates have EVER been found?? Please replyMORE PICS SEE BELOW REPLY

[aelefson]

Not baseball, but a lithographer's stone was found for a circa 1910 hockey tobacco card set. You should be able to find a picture and more information by searching the Net54 Vintage Hockey forum. I would love to see a picture of what you have!
Yours in collecting,
Alan Elefson
aelefson@hotmail.com

[Matt]

Paul - sounds interesting. Are the poses the same as the Butterfinger issue or were you just using that as an example of the style? There were many issues that have an image of the player with a facsimile signature on them; perhaps if you look here, you might find a match:
http://www.oldcardboard.com/

[D. Broughman]

I have had this printing block of a baseball player for awhile and am not sure were to find out about it. Can any of you help with it as long as you are on this subject? It has I.P.B. in a triangle in a rectangle on the end with 402 stamp into the wood next to it. Any idea of year? Thanks D.

[dstudeba]

[Bob Lemke]

Years ago in SCD there was an article about some aluminum printing plates for sheets of 1954 Bowman baseball being found used to hold up insulation in an attice in SE Pennsylvania. I don't recall how may plates were found.

[whitehse]

Originally Posted by Bob Lemke

Years ago in SCD there was an article about some aluminum printing plates for sheets of 1954 Bowman baseball being found used to hold up insulation in an attice in SE Pennsylvania. I don't recall how may plates were found.

Wow I do remember that article! I remember thinking that would be so cool to remove wallboard and find printing plates behind it!!

[olsport]

OK-here are the detailed pics & info. of my Baseball Card Printing Plate. It is 8 cards on a copper coated curved zinc plate. Each card measures a very small 1 5/8" length by 7/8" width. They are similiar to R306s and or R310s. The players are as follows: Gordon Cochrane, Tex Carlton, Jim Bottomley, George Earnshaw, Paul Waner, James Collins, Earl Averill, and Paul Derringer. This means the plate is from somewhere between 1932 to 1936. What tiny cards came out from then? Each is a print from a photo with facsimle signature and name below that in all CAPITOL letters.







Please reply with your opinions. Thanks!

[olsport]

Here are the 1934 R310 Butterfinger of Paul Waner with the Paul Waner Printing plate image next to it. They are the same pic with the same right & left strips cut off, and the same autographs, but the printing plate has a capitol block lettered name below the signature "PAUL WANER" Plus the vast size differences, as the printing plate card is only 1 5/8" x 7/8"


Somebody please solve the mystery of what card set this printing plate printed????

[fkw]

Interesting.

I dont know of any cards that match the printing plate.

[steve B]

The screen (dot pattern) is really coarse, more like a newspaper picture.
Any chance they're from a newspaper or magazine ad for the premiums?

Steve

[olsport]

Those pictures are so rough because I am giving you a microscopic view of very small cards, so you can see them in detail. They are on copper bright as new pennies so I have to angle them in the light just right to be able to see properly. They are NOT rough in any way. On the contrary ,they are very high quality. If I printed some cards with them, you would see how finely detailled they are. They have far greater detail actually than rough exhibit type cards or newspaper plates with huge dots. I am trying to get ONE question answered. "Which card set from the mid 1930s are they from??" Which set from the mid 30s used those pics with those autographs and those CAPITOL lettered names below them in that small size? Newspaper printing plates are like the example in this thread with the wood block attached, for them to move them around anywhere on the page, not a curved plate.

[ScottFandango]

looks like the size of four-on-one Exhibits which started in 1929....

meaning 4 of the imgaes would make up one card....

(although mainly portraits were used)

maybe the cards they made never made it to the candy store...

[nebboy]

Because of the curve to the plate this looks very much like a gravure printing black printing plate. They use that kind of printing for large runs. It bee around a long time. The line screen should be pretty detailed about 133 to 150 line screen. If it were for a news-paper the number of dots per inch (line screen) should be 115. You can use your 10X loop and just count them. Its not that hard. That should give you a much better Idea of what kind of substraight (paper) it was used to print on. And will narrow your search. Hope that helps