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Old 09-07-2018, 08:33 AM
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You guys have turned me into such a pessimistic grader.

Countless threads critiquing TPG grades have clearly taken a toll on me. A minor centering issue or even the slightest imperfection is now magnified and scrutinized. I have completely lost my ability to accurately grade cards.

Last month I bought a group of 1949 Bowman cards off ebay. In the group was a Jackie Robinson card that I intended to get graded. Looking at the card, I figured it would be a PSA 4 or 5 - it was extremely well centered, the registration was flawless, the front/back was clean, but the rough cut makes the corners look slightly worn. I sent it to PSA under the express service ($500-999 declared value) and declared the value at $999 (the approximate value of a PSA 4). Yesterday I received this email from PSA:

Hello Mr. Simonds,

I am writing on behalf of PSA regarding submission #XXXXXXXX (attached). This submission contains a card that does not qualify for the $50 fee due to its value. We understand that you had no way of knowing the grade; however, when the value does exceed the value limit for the fee you originally selected, we must make the proper adjustments.

Please see the attached printout of your submission with the correct fees noted in the right column.

In order to complete the process, I will need your approval to charge the correct total amount of $XXX. Please reply to this email at your convenience.

Thanks,


My first thought was "what the heck did they grade this card?" A PSA 8 NM-MT. I have never experienced a grade so different in my favor. Like I said, I have completely lost my ability to accurately assess the condition of a baseball card. I blame all of you

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Old 09-07-2018, 08:45 AM
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Awesome story. Congrats! I still hate PSA.
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Old 09-07-2018, 08:46 AM
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A PSA 8!?!?!??!?! Scans please. And congrats!!!
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Old 09-07-2018, 08:58 AM
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Have you looked at the standards for centering on PSA's website? A PSA can be up to 65/35 on the front *basically one border can be twice as wide as the other side* and 90/10 on the back *9 times the border on one side than the other*.

https://www.psacard.com/resources/gradingstandards/

That being said, they are normally pretty lenient on rough cuts since that's the natural cut for the issue and means that the card hasn't been trimmed. I one day hope to get the same call of highly underestimating the value of my cards at PSA.
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Old 09-07-2018, 11:57 AM
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Congratulations! 🎉🎊
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Old 09-07-2018, 12:13 PM
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Way to go! Not unusual for rough cuts on 49s. Nice to hear it went this way for you. Sounds like the ebay seller may have left a few bucks on the table.
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Old 09-07-2018, 12:31 PM
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Thanks all!

I will post a scan when I have the card in hand. It was certainly a pleasant surprise.
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Way to go! Not unusual for rough cuts on 49s. Nice to hear it went this way for you. Sounds like the ebay seller may have left a few bucks on the table.
LOL....You made me spit out my drink......yea.....one could say that.
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that is awesome....CONGRATS
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A rough cut does not downgrade a vintage card in fact it often helps.
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Ding ding ding ding, a winner!!
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You choked that one! Should have asked "How much would you need for a PSA 9?" LOL great story
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You guys have turned me into such a pessimistic grader.

Countless threads critiquing TPG grades have clearly taken a toll on me. A minor centering issue or even the slightest imperfection is now magnified and scrutinized. I have completely lost my ability to accurately grade cards.

Last month I bought a group of 1949 Bowman cards off ebay. In the group was a Jackie Robinson card that I intended to get graded. Looking at the card, I figured it would be a PSA 4 or 5 - it was extremely well centered, the registration was flawless, the front/back was clean, but the rough cut makes the corners look slightly worn. I sent it to PSA under the express service ($500-999 declared value) and declared the value at $999 (the approximate value of a PSA 4). Yesterday I received this email from PSA:

Hello Mr. Simonds,

I am writing on behalf of PSA regarding submission #XXXXXXXX (attached). This submission contains a card that does not qualify for the $50 fee due to its value. We understand that you had no way of knowing the grade; however, when the value does exceed the value limit for the fee you originally selected, we must make the proper adjustments.

Please see the attached printout of your submission with the correct fees noted in the right column.

In order to complete the process, I will need your approval to charge the correct total amount of $XXX. Please reply to this email at your convenience.

Thanks,


My first thought was "what the heck did they grade this card?" A PSA 8 NM-MT. I have never experienced a grade so different in my favor. Like I said, I have completely lost my ability to accurately assess the condition of a baseball card. I blame all of you


Wow awesome story! Congrats!


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"Can you lower it. I only have enough money to pay for a 7."
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One of the few times people thank companies for charging them more for the same service. It's genius. And congrats. Regardless of my dry humor, if it is an 8? then that is greatness. They usually go the other way around, it seems.
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Old 09-08-2018, 01:29 PM
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Is paying $10,000 worth of insurance the same as paying $2,000 worth of insurance on the package being sent back? Because there is a real charge requiring a submission change. I would presume the owner would like to be made full if the package was lost or stolen while in transit.
But this is one reason why many of us who submit to PSA recommend submitting at the lowest realistic submission level of the raw replacement value of a card in the same condition. Once it's graded and takes on an outsized value due to the grade, PSA will let you know if you need to get more insurance on the package.
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