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Old 05-15-2007, 08:30 AM
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Default When did Peck become Peck & Snyder

Posted By: Max Weder

Here's an 1867 reference to Andrew Peck's shop at 105 Nassau Street



An earlier thread in December 2004 http://tinyurl.com/27d7t2 referred to the address for the Peck & Snyder 1869 cards and the 126 Nassau Street and 22 Anne Street addresses, with a reference to a photo in Baseball Treasures of an 1866 copyright.

Can anyone add anything regarding Andrew Peck? Perhaps I'm just assuming this store became part of Peck & Snyder.

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Old 05-15-2007, 09:23 AM
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If Andrew Peck was still independent in 1867, and was certainly teamed with Mr. Snyder by 1868 (the Brooklyn Atlantics trade card is a P & S) then that pretty much dates the beginning of their partnership to 1867-68. If that is true, then what is the real date on the Jim Creighton P & S? Is it more like late 1867 or early 1868? We've always assumed that was the first of the photographic trade cards the company produced.

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Old 05-15-2007, 12:56 PM
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Posted By: Hal Lewis

According to the ads in my Beadle Dime Guides...

the 1867 versions say "Andrew Peck & Co., 105 Nassau"


while the 1868 versions list:

"Peck & Snyder, 105 Nassau"



This is consistent with the NYC directories from that time as well.


Peck & Snyder obviously merged with each other at some point in 1868... probably early in the year before baseball season when the dime guides came out.

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Posted By: davidcycleback

There was always debate about the Creighton. Some thought it was produce before 1868, some after, but no one was certain.

Good find, Max.

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

Or of course they could have merged in late 1867 after the season ended and the dime guides stopped printing for that year.

Regardless, if the Creighton is a "Peck & Snyder"...

it cannot be any older than late-1867.


He died in 1862... but I don't think anyone ever actually thought that the card was issued that early.

It has always been considered a later-produced tribute card as far as I was aware. Still an incredible card, nonetheless.


It may have been produced before the 1868 Atlantics card... or may have been done at the same time.

Probably before, if I had to guess.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Because six of the seven known P&S were issued between 1868 and 1870, I always thought the one that we can't accurately date- the Creighton- had to be pretty close to the others. I saw the back of it many years ago and I wish that Corey could provide a scan for us, because it is almost certain that it is earlier than all the rest. There is a biography of Creighton on the back with "Peck & Snyder" in rather small print, smaller than any of the others. Therefore, it is almost certainly the first, and I would date it no earlier than late 1867 and probably early 1868. There wouldn't be a several year gap between that one and the others.

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