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Old 01-26-2024, 07:31 AM
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Default W575-1 Anonymous Cards (Not Hand Cut, Not Strip Cards)

I am not sure I have seen a thread strictly on W575-1s in quite a while. One of my favorite finds......Show them if you care to.....(ad backs are fine too)
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Old 01-26-2024, 08:17 AM
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Drives me crazy that they're called strip cards. Cool envelope!
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They are cool as can be, sir!
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Here are the cards you would expect to see from me.

I'm still seeking the E. S. Rice version for my Sam Rice master collectiom.
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Seeking very scarce/rare cards for my Sam Rice master collection, e.g., E210 York Caramel Type 2 (upgrade), 1931 W502, W504 (upgrade), W572 sepia, W573, W575-1 E. S. Rice version, 1922 Haffner's Bread, 1922 Keating Candy, 1922 Witmor Candy Type 2 (vertical back), 1926 Sports Co. of Am. with ad & blank backs. Also T216 Kotton "NGO" card of Hugh Jennings. Also 1917 Merchants Bakery & Weil Baking cards of WaJo.
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Had this tucked away. You sure don't see these much. PSA has only graded one, an "authentic". And just don't see how they are hand cut.
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Had this tucked away. You sure don't see these much. PSA has only graded one, an "authentic". And just don't see how they are hand cut.
Touch'EmAll, it appears to me that thet the bottom border of your very nice WaJo card is hand cut. This is one reason I suspect that your card is not a W575-1, but rather a W501 Type 2 (or W501-2) card, which to the best of my knowledge is not yet recognized by the TPGs. Net54er Rhett Yeakley wrote about these in the Fall 2011 issue of Old Cardboard Magazine - see pics of the relevant pages below. In addition to the way Rhett says you can tell them apart, I have found that the rectangular box containing the player's pic of a W575-1 card is approx. 1/16" wider and 1/16" higher than that of a W501-1 and a W501-2. I have also included below pics of my W501-1 and W501-2 cards of WaJo which appear to look more like your card than my W575-1 of WaJo that I showed earlier in this thread. I hope this info is helpful, rather than disappointing, to you. If Rhett sees this thread, hopefully he will chime in.
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Many W575-1 cards appear to be factory cut, but there are plenty of strip issued W575-1 out there as well. It seems like this set was issued in different ways.


Here are 3 that I believe were issued in strip form, as vertical strips. The first and third are W575-1 card versions that Rhett identified as having the same grainy look as the W501 cards, without the 'G-4 22' printed in upper left border and printed card number on upper right border. The Danforth is freakishly wide. I believe these W501 similar cards were also issued in vertical strips, as most of the ones I have seen have a non-factory cut on top and bottom borders, or jagged as if torn off from a roll, as Rhett mentioned in the article above. The middle card has a little bit of the top border line visible on its bottom border, as well as being hand cut to photo border on the sides.

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The first two cards in the next grouping are factory cut like Leon's example, and have a Henry Johnson and Service Candy Co. stamps (by the way, both have the same street address in Alameda, CA - two companies running out of the same building?). The third and fourth in the row are just normal W575-1 cards that appear factory cut.

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The following row of Steve O'Neill cards starts with a factory cut card (despite the post-factory wear on side borders), another Service Candy Co. stamped factory cut (stamp is very faint...you are going to have to trust me on this), and two examples that I believe are strip cards that were issued in vertical strips, with the third card being a non-grainy with nicer photo and obviously being cut down after the fact to remove side borders, and the fourth being one of the W501-like W575-1 cards. It is interesting that between the two strip issued cards there is a difference in the spacing of the line containing his name and the line with the team, as well as a similar difference in this spacing between the two factory cut examples.

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Definitely a lot of versions of these cards out there, but understandably these long ago all got lumped together under the W575-1 designation because of the shared player photos.

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Old 01-26-2024, 05:26 PM
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How many strips have you seen?

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Many W575-1 cards appear to be factory cut, but there are plenty of strip issued W575-1 out there as well. It seems like this set was issued in different ways.


Here are 3 that I believe were issued in strip form, as vertical strips. The first and third are W575-1 card versions that Rhett identified as having the same grainy look as the W501 cards, without the 'G-4 22' printed in upper left border and printed card number on upper right border. The Danforth is freakishly wide. I believe these W501 similar cards were also issued in vertical strips, as most of the ones I have seen have a non-factory cut on top and bottom borders, or jagged as if torn off from a roll, as Rhett mentioned in the article above. The middle card has a little bit of the top border line visible on its bottom border, as well as being hand cut to photo border on the sides.

Attachment 607268Attachment 607269


The first two cards in the next grouping are factory cut like Leon's example, and have a Henry Johnson and Service Candy Co. stamps (by the way, both have the same street address in Alameda, CA - two companies running out of the same building?). The third and fourth in the row are just normal W575-1 cards that appear factory cut.

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The following row of Steve O'Neill cards starts with a factory cut card (despite the post-factory wear on side borders), another Service Candy Co. stamped factory cut (stamp is very faint...you are going to have to trust me on this), and two examples that I believe are strip cards that were issued in vertical strips, with the third card being a non-grainy with nicer photo and obviously being cut down after the fact to remove side borders, and the fourth being one of the W501-like W575-1 cards. It is interesting that between the two strip issued cards there is a difference in the spacing of the line containing his name and the line with the team, as well as a similar difference in this spacing between the two factory cut examples.

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Definitely a lot of versions of these cards out there, but understandably these long ago all got lumped together under the W575-1 designation because of the shared player photos.

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