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Old 01-19-2015, 07:10 PM
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Default Another Antiques Roadshow Tobacco collection.. Wow!

http://video.pbs.org/video/2365397303/
Just aired on PBS. Clip starts at 48 minutes into the video

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Old 01-19-2015, 07:16 PM
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Only collected American Beauty backs, awesome. Genius of the guy to put the magnets at the corners of the T202's.
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That was a nice looking Cobb.
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Damn, that Cobb is sharp!!
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wow! that's unbelievable! Very exciting that there are still huge unearthed raw collections out there. I wish my great aunt left me a stash like that.
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Amazing condition cards...too bad they didn't show more types of cards in the collection.
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Amazing condition cards...too bad they didn't show more types of cards in the collection.
Agree with that, she had a bunch of cards, would have been nice if they had shown a larger variety.
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Awesome collection. Thanks for sharing.
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Welcome and thanks for all that information. That is such a great collection.
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The direct link to just the appraisal so you don't have to watch the whole show;

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/archive/201407A23.html
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She loves the artwork on them and has become a student of the dead ball era because of them.
This is the best part. Well, other than the $200K as backup.

The artwork is why many of us are here, and why many of us have also become enamored with this great period in baseball history. Thanks for sharing the rest of the story.
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Here is the Ty Cobb that was featured on Roadshow (Web Sized) The original files are 420mb Tiffs. EVERY card in the collection is photographed in this manner. We would be interested to know what you folks think this card is worth.


T206 Cobb, Ty (Portrait - Red) - American Beauty Back-001.jpg

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Here is the Ty Cobb that was featured on Roadshow... We would be interested to know what you folks think this card is worth
A comparable example (currently the highest graded) sold in 2009 for $3,346:
http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/19.../a/716-81084.s

Today it would likely go for more, especially if it were to grade higher than PSA 5 (which I think it would).
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Jaw dropping...nice to see that there are still well preserved collections like this that pop out to the public.

Thanks for the info and the pics Bieg!

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Amen. Thanks so much Bieg for sharing. It is a truly amazing collection!


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An interesting way to estimate the sales price would be to take the current VCP for common backs and multiply it by the T206 Back Multiplier, as published by Scot A. Reader in 2012.

Assuming this card earns a grade of PSA 4:
PSA 4 VCP = $1963
T206 Back multiplier for American Beauty 350 with Frame = 4.4
$1963 * 4.4 = $8637.20

At this grade, I would estimate it would sell in the range of $6000 - $8000.
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Excellent, thank you. Where could I find the T 206 multiplier?

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An interesting way to estimate the sales price would be to take the current VCP for common backs and multiply it by the T206 Back Multiplier, as published by Scot A. Reader in 2012.

Assuming this card earns a grade of PSA 4:
PSA 4 VCP = $1963
T206 Back multiplier for American Beauty 350 with Frame = 4.4
$1963 * 4.4 = $8637.20

At this grade, I would estimate it would sell in the range of $6000 - $8000.
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The T206 multiplier is somewhat dated...and doesn't reflect supply and demand which is the #1 driving factor for pricing.
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The T206 multiplier is somewhat dated...and doesn't reflect supply and demand which is the #1 driving factor for pricing.
For sure...definitely no set type of multiplier for the T206 backs. Supply and Demand drives the prices and we know it changes quite a bit. Best indicator for the prices are past sales on eBay and auction houses. There is also a lot that goes into front back combos...do research and get to know the rarity and such...this also drives the price.
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Hhmm, the multipliers ARE based on sales data. But, they have a point, supply and demand probably changes too quickly and drastically to easily quantify. If you're a numbers person, it's still interesting reading. Here's the link:

http://t206resource.com/Article-T206...ltipliers.html
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It's my understanding that Scot's multiplier is for common cards, I believe HOFers would be somewhat less than that.

ETA: jcc6252, I now see that you already took this into account above, my bad.

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