500 HR Club

[Zach Wheat]

Apologies in advance if this has been discussed before but I did not see anything. I do not regularly post on this side.

I recently purchased a 500 HR Club baseball with autographs of 11 members......All of whom were from the pre-steroid era. Opinions requested on the desirability of adding autos of members in the steroid era?

Frankly, I like my ball as is and probably won't have others added....but just curious as to what others thought.

Z

[ooo-ribay]

I would say leave as is. Which 11 guys do you have?

[packs]

I'd add the clean guys like Frank Thomas, Albert Pujols, Jim Thome, and Ken Griffey Jr. But I' d leave off Manny Ramirez, McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, Sheffield, and Ortiz.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by packs

I'd add the clean guys like Frank Thomas, Albert Pujols, Jim Thome, and Ken Griffey Jr. But I' d leave off Manny Ramirez, McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, Sheffield, and Ortiz.

This is what drives me crazy.....the assumption that certain guys are clean. I would love to see Piazza start his HOF speech with, "Guess what?"

[Rookiemonster]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

This is what drives me crazy.....the assumption that certain guys are clean. I would love to see Piazza start his HOF speech with, "Guess what?"

I absolutely agree with this . Just get another ball with all the other guys on it .

[packs]

I don't think it's too hard to tell who cheated. Ramirez was suspended. Palmeiro was caught red handed. McGwire and Sosa are obvious. Sheffield admitted using the same cream that Bonds did. Ortiz is the only questionable name I listed. I guess you guys are just fans of someone.

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by packs

I'd add the clean guys like Frank Thomas, Albert Pujols, Jim Thome, and Ken Griffey Jr. But I' d leave off Manny Ramirez, McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, Sheffield, and Ortiz.

Additionally, I would exclude any of the more recent signers who have terrible signatures because they literally would scar up a great ball with nothing but nice signatures.

Personally, I would start a second ball with the more recent players so that you don't even need to think about this as a consideration.
I actually have done this with certain theme balls that I have worked on completing.

[Zach Wheat]

Thanks for the info guys. I think I am going to leave As Is. I have the following on the ball:

Williams
Mantle
Mays
Aaron
Banks
McCovey
Robinson
Killebrew
Jackson
Schmidt

Last name slips me....I think it is Mathews.

I don't want to start an heated discussion here...but would Griffey & Pujols belong in the User or Non-User club? Just curious on thoughts...

Z

[Scott Garner]

Griffey, Jr. = not a user
Pujols = no opinion

[ooo-ribay]

We'll probably never know.

[Bruinsfan94]

Originally Posted by packs

I'd add the clean guys like Frank Thomas, Albert Pujols, Jim Thome, and Ken Griffey Jr. But I' d leave off Manny Ramirez, McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro, Sheffield, and Ortiz.

How in the world can you say Pujols is clean and Ortiz is not with any degree of certainty?

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Bruinsfan94

How in the world can you say Pujols is clean and Ortiz is not with any degree of certainty?

Hello? You can't. No more than you can be sure about Griffey, Piazza or ANYBODY!!!!!

[Stonepony]

Leave the ball as is. Do you really want any modern players sig squeezing around your others?

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by Bruinsfan94

How in the world can you say Pujols is clean and Ortiz is not with any degree of certainty?

Maybe because Ortiz actually failed a drug test??

[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Maybe because Ortiz actually failed a drug test??

[Bruinsfan94]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

Maybe because Ortiz actually failed a drug test??

That list was a joke. We have zero idea what it was he tested for. It could be something that is not banned, was never banned, or anything really. He's among the most tested players out there. You are going to ruin a guys legacy over something shady and unproven like that.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Bruinsfan94

How in the world can you say Pujols is clean and Ortiz is not with any degree of certainty?

I took this to mean "how can you say Pujols is clean?" And, really, you can't.

[rocuan]

I have one, signed at the 500 HR show in Atlantic City. Williams, Aaron, Mantle. Mathews, Killebrew, F, Robinson, Banks, McCovey, Mays, Schmidt signed at the show. Jackson was there but did not sign due to a severe hand injury. I got his signature at a later show. Also got Murray's at another show. I would not get any others to sign it. It has a COA from JSA.
It is now for sale if interested.