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[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge

I would think anyone who has the FBI knocking on their door would disagree with that statement and say there is risk. Now I know no one has been arrested yet, no civil lawsuits or death sentences, but I suspect having the FBI investigating your life cannot be pleasant.

If I had made millions doctoring cards, I wouldn't find paying a little restitution a huge inconvenience. We'll see if it ends up being any more than that. And most of these guys are smart enough to have stayed under the radar anyhow. I doubt anyone is knocking on their doors.

I would love to be wrong about this, of course. They all should be punished severely. But it's baseball cards.

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by peter_spaeth

if i had made millions doctoring cards, i wouldn't find paying a little restitution a huge inconvenience.

i beg to differ!

[CuriousGeorge]

I’m not as familiar with the FBI as an attorney like you may be, but they don’t strike me as an organization set up to play the role of mediator and work nicely to help get some restitution back for people. In fact Mastro and Allen went to jail and never even had to pay a penny back! I’m kind of thinking there has to be more to this but what do I know?

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If I had made millions doctoring cards, I wouldn't find paying a little restitution a huge inconvenience. We'll see if it ends up being any more than that. And most of these guys are smart enough to have stayed under the radar anyhow. I doubt anyone is knocking on their doors.

I would love to be wrong about this, of course. They all should be punished severely. But it's baseball cards.

[Leon]

I don't know about that. If I were a betting person I would say restitution might come into play in the final punishment (if there is any). But then again, what do I know? I am just a layperson running a chatboard.

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge

I’m not as familiar with the FBI as an attorney like you may be, but they don’t strike me as an organization set up to play the role of mediator and work nicely to help get some restitution back for people. In fact Mastro and Allen went to jail and never even had to pay a penny back! I’m kind of thinking there has to be more to this but what do I know?

[CuriousGeorge]

But Leon, aren’t we awfully early in this for the FBI to be meting out punishment already? I know some think civil lawsuits should have happened already but as another poster articulately said, these things take time.

Originally Posted by Leon

I don't know about that. If I were a betting person I would say restitution might come into play in the final punishment (if there is any). But then again, what do I know? I am just a layperson running a chatboard.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge

But Leon, aren’t we awfully early in this for the FBI to be meting out punishment already? I know some think civil lawsuits should have happened already but as another poster articulately said, these things take time.

It wouldn't surprise me if we are several years away from closure. Who knows? I doubt this is a sprint nor should it be.

[Promethius88]

Originally Posted by Leon

It wouldn't surprise me if we are several years away from closure. Who knows? I doubt this is a sprint nor should it be.

So what you are saying is we have several years more of name calling, childish behavior and redundant posts about this same issue to look forward to on the boards?

[tschock]

Originally Posted by Promethius88

So what you are saying is we have several years more of name calling, childish behavior and redundant posts about this same issue to look forward to on the boards?

And do you think if there were charges, prosecution, and some verdict tomorrow it would impact that much?

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Promethius88

So what you are saying is we have several years more of name calling, childish behavior and redundant posts about this same issue to look forward to on the boards?

Either you or Leon could fix that for you... I hear the Kool aid is better over on the CU boards, so I would suggest that for you.

[kateighty]

Originally Posted by Promethius88

So what you are saying is we have several years more of name calling, childish behavior and redundant posts about this same issue to look forward to on the boards?

Pretty much. Pay attention to the childish behavior from the top down. Leon accused someone else as being me and starting a new account in disguise. Absolute BS. Like WTF?

Pre-war cards are my passion and I'm still waiting for an apology call Leon. When the leader here can't say sorry, that's a problem. And a major one. Might be time for someone to take over this board.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by Promethius88

So what you are saying is we have several years more of name calling, childish behavior and redundant posts about this same issue to look forward to on the boards?

we can only hope and more POps

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Leon

I don't know about that. If I were a betting person I would say restitution might come into play in the final punishment (if there is any). But then again, what do I know? I am just a layperson running a chatboard.

When it came to any kind of sentencing I think it would certainly be a mitigating factor. If Mastro and Allen had spent the months leading up to trial trying to make people whole I think their sentencing would've gone differently. Of course I too, am no lawyer.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CuriousGeorge

I’m not as familiar with the FBI as an attorney like you may be, but they don’t strike me as an organization set up to play the role of mediator and work nicely to help get some restitution back for people. In fact Mastro and Allen went to jail and never even had to pay a penny back! I’m kind of thinking there has to be more to this but what do I know?

I never suggested the FBI was playing mediator. I am just speculating that at the end of the day a few card doctors might be paying back some restitution, perhaps even of their own accord on the advice of counsel, but I am skeptical that any will end up serving time.