Christy Mathewson signed baseball is it real or fake?

[Baseball_Newbie]

Hi, I'm looking into a collection of signed balls from a family member that I think was duped on a lot of them. Can anyone provide an experienced opinion on the authenticity of this autographed ball? I'm quite new to all of this but learning more and more as I go, especially about the amount of fraud and forgery in this hobby! Even if blatantly obvious to experienced collectors, I would appreciate any replies.Thanks!

[todeen]

Add a picture of the other side of the baseball so we can date the age of the baseball.

Simply stated, the whiteness of the baseball, color of the strings, and the ink of the signature are all suspicious. The markings on the other side of the baseball would likely date it after Christy's death in 1925.

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[Baseball_Newbie]

Thanks for the reply! Here are the other markings on the ball

[Klrdds]

Bad can’t even describe this autograph .

[todeen]

Here is another thread we recently discussed with a really bad Mathewson auto. You can see others refer to this as "coach's corner crap" or they might also refer to it as crap coming out of Florida.

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app

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[Scott Garner]

100% bad fake

[todeen]

A 100yo white baseball just screams forgery. I'm no expert on aging a baseball. But if you look at authentic auto balls from 100 years ago, the leather is a dark color due to elements affecting the leather, especially oil from hands touching it.

Many fans would use lacquer on their ball trying to preserve the auto, which would discolor the ball, also.

Frauds will often soak a ball in coffee trying to replicate the discoloration, but it's not the same and is usually identifiable.

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[swarmee]

https://www.ghtbl.org/tober/ for baseball knowledge.

[Baseball_Newbie]

Thanks everyone. Figured this one would be too good to be true! From what I read, the all-red stitching on balls didn't become a standard thing until after his death. And would probably be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars if real.
Oh I've got more baseballs to come!