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Old 04-19-2019, 11:56 AM
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Is that true, though? I don't feel like the perception is that Jeter was as good as guys like Mantle and DiMaggio, just that he held a similar status among his teammates and enjoyed a similar amount of respect in the clubhouse and game at large.
Exactly. He holds the same status and respect without the career = overrated.
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Old 04-19-2019, 12:18 PM
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Exactly. He holds the same status and respect without the career = overrated.
He may have the same fame but I don't think any 'smart' baseball fan out there thinks he's on the same level of Mays and Mantle. Fame wise, he's right there.

If there's a tower of famous American athletes since the early 1980s, Michael Jordan is number 1 by a mile but that next step down will certainly have Jeter. Right now the guy with the highest Q rating in baseball is Bryce Harper. Is he the best player in the league? Of course not, but if he and Trout walk into a bar, he's the guy that non everyday baseball people turn and go, 'WOW THAT'S BRYCE HARPER!'

Jeter had a national farewell commercial by Nike! Who was the last guy to have one of those? Jordan.

I'm not trying to counter the 'Jeter is overrated' argument, folks can throw that out all they want. Just trying to point out that regardless of how his numbers stack up to guys like Mantle and Mays, his fame at the very least matches theirs.
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He may have the same fame but I don't think any 'smart' baseball fan out there thinks he's on the same level of Mays and Mantle. Fame wise, he's right there.

If there's a tower of famous American athletes since the early 1980s, Michael Jordan is number 1 by a mile but that next step down will certainly have Jeter. Right now the guy with the highest Q rating in baseball is Bryce Harper. Is he the best player in the league? Of course not, but if he and Trout walk into a bar, he's the guy that non everyday baseball people turn and go, 'WOW THAT'S BRYCE HARPER!'

Jeter had a national farewell commercial by Nike! Who was the last guy to have one of those? Jordan.

I'm not trying to counter the 'Jeter is overrated' argument, folks can throw that out all they want. Just trying to point out that regardless of how his numbers stack up to guys like Mantle and Mays, his fame at the very least matches theirs.
Harper would probably order a bottle of whiskey. Trout would order a milkshake and drink only half of it.
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Adam, clearly we will never convince each other that the other person is right. So, again, let's respectfully agree to disagree.

I don't think people compare Jeter to Ruth or Mantle's career accomplishments or stats, BUT I think most baseball fans (especially knowledgable of Yankee history), have him as last generation's Yankee superstar, who completes the chain chronologically...Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, Mantle, Munson, Reggie, Mattingly...and Jeter.

I still think people here (for an unknown reason) are downplaying the fact he is 6th on the all-time hits list (that's an enormous feat), as well as being a major contributor to 5 championships. When I look at him, I don't just look at stats on paper...there's many intangibles.
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Harper would probably order a bottle of whiskey. Trout would order a milkshake and drink only half of it.

Lol. That's kind of funny!
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Harper would probably order a bottle of whiskey. Trout would order a milkshake and drink only half of it.
That is a clown question, bro!!!

I know it was a joke but the funny thing is that Bryce Harper is a practicing Mormon and doesn’t drink alcohol.
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That is a clown question, bro!!!

I know it was a joke but the funny thing is that Bryce Harper is a practicing Mormon and doesn’t drink alcohol.
Interesting, was not aware of that.
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Is that true Rhett? Interesting for sure.

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Ridiculous prices on the Jeter SP last night, via PWCC eBay auctions.

PSA 9 = $7000
SGC 9 = $4200
SGC 9.5 = $8700

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He may have the same fame but I don't think any 'smart' baseball fan out there thinks he's on the same level of Mays and Mantle. Fame wise, he's right there.
Just to be clear, I said his stats and career most closely resemble Paul Molitor. I agree that his level of fame is the same as the elite players in baseball history even though the performance isn’t there. Like I said, he had a great, 1st ballot HOF career. But he’s not one of the 5 greatest Yankees.

That being said, it is much better to be overrated than underrated.
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He may have the same fame but I don't think any 'smart' baseball fan out there thinks he's on the same level of Mays and Mantle. Fame wise, he's right there.

If there's a tower of famous American athletes since the early 1980s, Michael Jordan is number 1 by a mile but that next step down will certainly have Jeter. Right now the guy with the highest Q rating in baseball is Bryce Harper. Is he the best player in the league? Of course not, but if he and Trout walk into a bar, he's the guy that non everyday baseball people turn and go, 'WOW THAT'S BRYCE HARPER!'

Jeter had a national farewell commercial by Nike! Who was the last guy to have one of those? Jordan.

I'm not trying to counter the 'Jeter is overrated' argument, folks can throw that out all they want. Just trying to point out that regardless of how his numbers stack up to guys like Mantle and Mays, his fame at the very least matches theirs.
Jordan is number 1 but I would put Tiger as a close number 2
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