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Old 07-18-2017, 05:07 PM
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i wouldnt think most CJ collectors care so much about the slab...why not SGC?
Yes and no. Not everyone lives by the philosophy of buying the card not the holder. I feel 9 times out of 10 someone is gonna pay what the market value is for the numerical grade not how the card looks. It would be different had the exact same card not been graded a 4 previously. Several hundreds of dollars difference is so called "value".
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Old 07-18-2017, 05:20 PM
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With so few 1914 CJs floating around, I would argue that people pay for the holder and numerical grade, not the card inside.
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Old 07-18-2017, 05:29 PM
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If your luck is as poor as mine, it may come back ALT / TRIMMED. I had an Aaron RC in PSA 5. Sent it back for review and poss. bump. Came back as noted above. Good luck is all I can offer!
Yep. That would likely cause me to invest in a trip to the local liquor store.

Without seeing the back of the CJ I like the OP's chances it comes back at least in VG. 2 seems harsh.
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Old 07-18-2017, 06:07 PM
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So here's my take:
1) PSA forced a downgrade and should have paid off the OP with cash to cover the difference in values.
2) OP should NOT resubmit in holder for review. Either crack out or leave as is.
3) Card is awesome. "tampered" in the OP made me think the card was determined tampered (maybe an erasure, which would be a two-point drop from the four as instead of 4(MK)?
4) My weighted average if resubmitted *raw* is a 4.5
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Old 07-19-2017, 02:20 PM
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So here's my take:
1) PSA forced a downgrade and should have paid off the OP with cash to cover the difference in values.
2) OP should NOT resubmit in holder for review. Either crack out or leave as is.
3) Card is awesome. "tampered" in the OP made me think the card was determined tampered (maybe an erasure, which would be a two-point drop from the four as instead of 4(MK)?
4) My weighted average if resubmitted *raw* is a 4.5
I agree with your assessment if submitted Raw. I just didn't feel like taking the chance of cracking it out and damaging it. As for the last time when it was dropped from a 4 to a 2..the card never left the holder. There was minor dings and scratches to the outside of the holder.
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Old 08-08-2017, 09:16 AM
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Just received the update that PSA bumped it to a 2.5. Guaranteed to be the best 2.5 out there. I will post pics when it arrives.
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Old 08-08-2017, 09:28 AM
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Yes and no. Not everyone lives by the philosophy of buying the card not the holder. I feel 9 times out of 10 someone is gonna pay what the market value is for the numerical grade not how the card looks. It would be different had the exact same card not been graded a 4 previously. Several hundreds of dollars difference is so called "value".
I can't agree with this more. I had a Sport Kings Bobby Jones PSA 5, that I swear to god, looked like an '8'. It had the TINIEST wrinkle....Im sure someone could have spooned it out. Did it sell as an '8'?? HELL NO....It sold as a '5', and not even VCP average...lol
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Old 08-08-2017, 12:21 PM
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We should have group prayers for those about to send in cards.
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Old 08-08-2017, 12:36 PM
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If your luck is as poor as mine, it may come back ALT / TRIMMED. I had an Aaron RC in PSA 5. Sent it back for review and poss. bump. Came back as noted above. Good luck is all I can offer!
In that case doesn't PSA have to give you the price difference?
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In that case doesn't PSA have to give you the price difference?
Not if you crack it out.
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