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Old 05-07-2011, 01:19 AM
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I'm sorry, Almostdone. I've resisted for days adding to this thread because I just can't stay within its confines, but can resist no more. Best looking Mantle card: '53-'55 Dormand Bat on shoulder pose. Just a gorgeous image of a very young Mick under powder blue skies at old Yankee Stadium, ready to conquer all! Card that best captures his youthful rookie image: '51-'53 era Exhibit (date of card based on "Made in USA" legend at lower right bottom of card; pic actually taken during his '51 rookie season).

And concerning any contention that Mantle was overrated (Hi, Frank!), if anyone else has read Bill James books at length, it's interesting to note that Mantle, in the course of his career, created more than 200% of the runs created by the average player during the time his career spanned, even including his down years in the mid to late '60's, when he was playing with a bad shoulder and two bad knees. He was one of just seven, I believe, to achieve that level, with Williams No. 1 and Ruth No. 2. Others include Cobb, Gehrig, Hornsby and Jackson. Ruth created more runs than Williams, but the league average was also higher during the era in which he played. Aaron and Mays, as great as they were, were each in the 180% range. As James once noted, Mays' stats superficially appeared to approximately match Mantle's when they were both in their primes, but Willie walked far less, and consequently was making 70 or so more outs per year than Mantle. Of course, Willie's total production exceeded the Mick's, based on his greater longevity. James consequently has Willie ranked as the 3rd best player of all time, with Mantle No.6. Mick's legend has an extremely sound factual foundation.

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Old 05-07-2011, 10:37 AM
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My favorite Mantles from the 50's--

1956 Topps- when I was a kid collecting this was my dream card and at $35 too much money.

1953 Bowman color
1953 Bowman color: Mantle/Berra/Bauer
1953 Topps
1955 Bowman
1957 Topps
1959 Topps

Thats about it
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:21 AM
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1956 I think is the best looking set ever made, the 1955 set is close 2nd.

The artwork on some of these cards were just so innovative for the time.
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:53 PM
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1. 1954 Bowman
2. 1953 Topps
3. 1956 Topps
4. 1951 Bowman
5. 1952 Topps
6. 1953 Bowman
7. 1952 Bowman
8. 1955 Bowman

I've owned the Top 3 and have #4 on the way ('51 Bowman) and I still think '54 Bowman best captures the "All-American-ness" that just seemed to radiate around Mantle.
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Old 05-07-2011, 08:28 PM
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I'm sorry, Almostdone. I've resisted for days adding to this thread because I just can't stay within its confines, but can resist no more. Best looking Mantle card: '53-'55 Dormand Bat on shoulder pose. Just a gorgeous image of a very young Mick under powder blue skies at old Yankee Stadium, ready to conquer all! Card that best captures his youthful rookie image: '51-'53 era Exhibit (date of card based on "Made in USA" legend at lower right bottom of card; pic actually taken during his '51 rookie season).

And concerning any contention that Mantle was overrated (Hi, Frank!), if anyone else has read Bill James books at length, it's interesting to note that Mantle, in the course of his career, created more than 200% of the runs created by the average player during the time his career spanned, even including his down years in the mid to late '60's, when he was playing with a bad shoulder and two bad knees. He was one of just seven, I believe, to achieve that level, with Williams No. 1 and Ruth No. 2. Others include Cobb, Gehrig, Hornsby and Jackson. Ruth created more runs than Williams, but the league average was also higher during the era in which he played. Aaron and Mays, as great as they were, were each in the 180% range. As James once noted, Mays' stats superficially appeared to approximately match Mantle's when they were both in their primes, but Willie walked far less, and consequently was making 70 or so more outs per year than Mantle. Of course, Willie's total production exceeded the Mick's, based on his greater longevity. James consequently has Willie ranked as the 3rd best player of all time, with Mantle No.6. Mick's legend has an extremely sound factual foundation.

Larry
Larry,
I understand the constraints of the question. I was just thinking that or the most part most collectors (casual as well as more involved) know all of the pictures and poses form the ones I mentioned.
I love to look up some of the smaller (but no less nice) issues of Mantle cards, or anyone elses for that matter. Thanks for the imput.

Drew
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Thank you Frank, a voice of reason.

However I would pick the 1955 Stahl Meyer over the 1954 Stahl Meyer because of the 2 pictures of him.
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